The Daily Double

[Twelvefret]

‘47 Super Speed/ Feathet SS/Atomic Rocket

 

[Twelvefret]

It shaved very well, how thin is the thin cap.
I will have to compare it to the other one I have to see if they are the same. I wasn't aware there where different ones.

I'll get mine out and take a photo this evening.

 

[GAW9576]

Nice setup @Twelvefret have you ever tried a kamisori razor? I got to try an Iwasaki for part of a shave once, and a kamisori is the one straight razor I really want that I don't have.

 

[Twelvefret]

Thin cap from a 1916 OT. I had to file the corners due to dropped damage. It’s a very nice razor and highly effective.

 

[GAW9576]

Here are my two next to each other.

Here is the shinier ones top cap before I worked on it.

And here is the less shinny one in its case. Not sure I should mess with that one much because it is in pretty good shape for being original.

Thin cap from a 1916 OT. I had to file the corners due to dropped damage. It’s a very nice razor and highly effective.View attachment 960304View attachment 960305View attachment 960306

I thought what you have pictured was called a single ring. Or are both styles considered old types?

 

[Twelvefret]

I’ll give a shout to @REV579 . He’s the OT expert.

 

[GAW9576]

I’ll give a shout to @REV579 . He’s the OT expert.

I'm pretty new to these so I could easily be mistaken. So hopefully he gives us both some insight.

 

[REV579]

I don’t count myself an expert as much as I try to be a sponge. A Single Ring was the shift away from the Double Ring, while still incorporating a stem to retain the cap. At the base of the ferrule, where it fits inside the barrel, there is a “ring-like” protrusion, which is not carried over to the 1921+ 3-piece ferrules. Prior to the 1921 102’s, they all had the “ring”.
I don’t think they were ever really called a “Single Ring” by anyone other than enthusiasts and others trying to articulate a designation that could be understood. But, a stemmed 102 is generally referred to as a Single Ring today. I’m sitting in a movie theater with REV579, Jr. waiting for Captain Marvel to start, otherwise I’d check my samples.

 

[Twelvefret]

I don’t count myself an expert as much as I try to be a sponge. A Single Ring was the shift away from the Double Ring, while still incorporating a stem to retain the cap. At the base of the ferrule, where it fits inside the barrel, there is a “ring-like” protrusion, which is not carried over to the 1921+ 3-piece ferrules. Prior to the 1921 102’s, they all had the “ring”.
I don’t think they were ever really called a “Single Ring” by anyone other than enthusiasts and others trying to articulate a designation that could be understood. But, a stemmed 102 is generally referred to as a Single Ring today. I’m sitting in a movie theater with REV579, Jr. waiting for Captain Marvel to start, otherwise I’d check my samples.

Enjoy the movie and thank you, Brotherman

 

[REV579]

Enjoy the movie and thank you, Brotherman

Just got home and I confirmed my suspicions about the ferrules. The only ferrules that did not resemble a noticeable ring are both later models and from England.
While it might be sloppy, I’m comfortable with calling an Old Type(preferably a 102 over a 102a) with a knob and stem a Single Ring. I think if it was referred to as an old type with a fixed comb, people would equally understand which razor they were referencing.
I really enjoyed the movie. Worth the coin.

 

[Twelvefret]

I’ve had a hard time knowing what to call the ones with the threads are attached to the cap like mine. The other one I call a ball end .

 

[GAW9576]

Thank you @REV579 glad you enjoyed the movie. Quality time with the kids is always important.
So if I understand correctly the razors I have and the razor @Twelvefret has are both old types mine would be comonly referee to as a ball end old type, and his would be commonly refered to as a single ring old type. Is that right?
Also how different is the head on an ABC
After shaving with the ball end I want one even more.

 

[REV579]

Thank you @REV579 glad you enjoyed the movie. Quality time with the kids is always important.
So if I understand correctly the razors I have and the razor @Twelvefret has are both old types mine would be commonly referee to as a ball end old type, and his would be commonly referred to as a single ring old type. Is that right?
Also how different is the head on an ABC
After shaving with the ball end I want one even more.

I believe you have it. As for the difference between the ABC and 102, it really depends on a couple of things. The ABC razors produced from 1910 through 1917 will use, what appears to be, the same comb as the Gillette 102. The cap is essentially the same with the only noticeable exception being the shape of the locating posts. The Gillette locating posts have a more "pointed" or "cone" shape, while the ABC locating posts are more rounded on the end.

I have not shaved with an ABC or 102 only 9 times this year out of approx 50 recorded shaves.
For example, yesterday:

and today:

 

[GAW9576]

I believe you have it. As for the difference between the ABC and 102, it really depends on a couple of things. The ABC razors produced from 1910 through 1917 will use, what appears to be, the same comb as the Gillette 102. The cap is essentially the same with the only noticeable exception being the shape of the locating posts. The Gillette locating posts have a more "pointed" or "cone" shape, while the ABC locating posts are more rounded on the end.

I have not shaved with an ABC or 102 only 9 times this year out of approx 50 recorded shaves.
For example, yesterday:
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and today:
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That scroll handle ABC is beautiful. That's the handle I really want. But I'm still waiting to get some money to play with.

 

[Twelvefret]

Beautiful ABC.

 

[GAW9576]

Today's shave was a three razor lineup of a bumples gold Gem MMOC, a schick injector and a Gillette ball end old type. The only thing missing that I have is a straight. Maybe next time.
Noxima and hot towel prep.
Gem with Gem ss ptfe 9th flip
Schick with chick blade I think 4th or 5th use
Gillette with KAI 9th use witch has been moves to my wife's razor now. She likes well used blades.
Two band badger with Cella and a little lubriderm added, I got the idea from @Tanuki
Tolsom aftershave splash and Proraso aftershave cream
CCs

 

[GAW9576]

This mornings shave.

 

[GAW9576]

Today's Daily Double.
Hot towel and noxzema wash preshave
Horse hair brush with Cremo Cooling
Gem MMCP with 11th flip gem ss ptfe
Schick g injector with Chick blade shave?
Tulsom aftershave splash and Proraso pre/post shave cream.
For a relaxing CCs.

 

[GAW9576]

Here is today's shave.
Pre shave hot shower w. Noxzema wash
1st pass Gem MMCP gem ptfe 12th flip
2bd pass + cleanup Schick g chick blad
Cella with two band badger (love this brush)
Alum then Tulsom aftershave splash.
And finish off with Proraso aftershave balm. Results, Very CCs.

 

[Twelvefret]

You are getting very fancy with your shaves. Love it. Everything looks very nice. Congratulations.