That's how I find all soaps and creams, you just improvise with water and product and you will eventually get your results you want, except for yeti snot, that one takes a lot more work!Interesting experience with my tub of Cella today. Normally I like the dry method to load my Stirling and now my Cella. I find that I just can control it better when I face lather. Takes a while, but predictable. Today I tried Marco's method with my little red tub. Works. Pretty messy! I face lathered after loading, and found I did not need to add any more water and it lathered fine. My dry method works well also. I will probably stick with that because I can control it a bit better. I just keep dipping the brush tips in water and working it until I get the slickness and thickness. Really nice stuff.