Unlathered I already like it a lot. Nice backbone, a little scratch without being prickly, almost soft. I think it will improve with break in. I am currently using a Maseto Manchurian 2 Band Silvertip and the feel is almost identical now and the Maseto is broken in. (My break in process is to just use them).would be interested in you findings of the Kirin Knot, Have one ordered tho is suspect it will be a couple of weeks at least berfore it arrives