Stopping for the bus

[Frozenshades]

Wow. Makes me wonder. Back when I was in Drivers Ed a few students in my class actually failed. I wonder if anyone fails anymore. Or do we just hand out drivers licenses like candy bars?

Sometimes I wonder. It's a bit of a double edged sword because you want people to be somewhat educated and trained to be allowed to drive, but because of how automobile dependent the US is, I fear if the process is too difficult more people would simply drive illegally.

I like cars and going for a nice drive, but honestly I have to think that for the daily grind self-driving cars taking over will just be better for everyone. Whenever we eventually get to that point.

 

[martym]

Every single day here!!
People just don’t care

Years ago when I was a police officer I had to go before an accident review board and one person sitting was the city manager and 2 were city commissioners.
I had been going to a major accident in my marked police car with lights and siren and was hit by a drunk driver.
My explanation was that had he not been driving drunk and had he pulled to the right hand curb and come to a complete stop as required by law there would not have been an accident.
The city manager told me that just because I had lights and siren on didn’t mean others have to pull over and stop for me.
I won’t tell you my answer to them but they recommended 14 days on the beach. I didn’t even get a verbal reprimand from the Chief.
If these people sitting and judging don’t know then how do we expect John Q Public?
Common sense is not required anymore and morals and values are not far behind I am afraid.

Short of having police cars and officers with every bus it will always be a problem!!

 

[shavefan]

Every single day here!!
People just don’t care

Years ago when I was a police officer I had to go before an accident review board and one person sitting was the city manager and 2 were city commissioners.
I had been going to a major accident in my marked police car with lights and siren and was hit by a drunk driver.
My explanation was that had he not been driving drunk and had he pulled to the right hand curb and come to a complete stop as required by law there would not have been an accident.
The city manager told me that just because I had lights and siren on didn’t mean others have to pull over and stop for me.
I won’t tell you my answer to them but they recommended 14 days on the beach. I didn’t even get a verbal reprimand from the Chief.
If these people sitting and judging don’t know then how do we expect John Q Public?
Common sense is not required anymore and morals and values are not far behind I am afraid.

Short of having police cars and officers with every bus it will always be a problem!!

Crazy stuff Marty. Unbelievable comments by that city manager.

 

[martym]

Yup
You can’t fix stupid!!!

 

[Captain Pre-Capsize]

This just happened a couple of weeks ago. Tragic. Driver submitted to blood test to disprove alcohol / drug issues so it likely was not that. She was probably doing something very, very important while driving like updating her profile on Facebook.

Driver charged in crash at school bus stop that killed 3 siblings

 

[Lightcs1776]

Every single day here!!
People just don’t care

Years ago when I was a police officer I had to go before an accident review board and one person sitting was the city manager and 2 were city commissioners.
I had been going to a major accident in my marked police car with lights and siren and was hit by a drunk driver.
My explanation was that had he not been driving drunk and had he pulled to the right hand curb and come to a complete stop as required by law there would not have been an accident.
The city manager told me that just because I had lights and siren on didn’t mean others have to pull over and stop for me.
I won’t tell you my answer to them but they recommended 14 days on the beach. I didn’t even get a verbal reprimand from the Chief.
If these people sitting and judging don’t know then how do we expect John Q Public?
Common sense is not required anymore and morals and values are not far behind I am afraid.

Short of having police cars and officers with every bus it will always be a problem!!

This seems to be far too common; people at that level become more politically motivated than supporting the officers doing the job.

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[oc_in_fw]

Sometimes I wonder. It's a bit of a double edged sword because you want people to be somewhat educated and trained to be allowed to drive, but because of how automobile dependent the US is, I fear if the process is too difficult more people would simply drive illegally.

I like cars and going for a nice drive, but honestly I have to think that for the daily grind self-driving cars taking over will just be better for everyone. Whenever we eventually get to that point.

When I lived in Cleveland, it was nice to have public transport- especially in winter. I owned a car, but when weather was particularly nasty I rode the bus and/or train.

 

[shavefan]

Sometimes I wonder. It's a bit of a double edged sword because you want people to be somewhat educated and trained to be allowed to drive, but because of how automobile dependent the US is, I fear if the process is too difficult more people would simply drive illegally...

Well then they should pay a hefty price for driving illegally. I hardly think the process is too difficult, which is supported by all the licensed idiots behind the wheel.

Rant over

 

[Ricksplace]

Illegally passing a school bus in Canadian province will cost drivers their license
Prince Edward Island. Pass a school bus when its lights are flashing, and you lose your license for 3 months and a $5000.00 fine.

 

[shavefan]

Illegally passing a school bus in Canadian province will cost drivers their license
Prince Edward Island. Pass a school bus when its lights are flashing, and you lose your license for 3 months and a $5000.00 fine.

Now we're talkin'

 

[simon1]

I've written several tickets for passing a school bus. I'd wait at the different stops and watch for that...when I could. A lot of times the PO-lease don't have time; their calls are backed up for assaults in progress, burglaries (that take a lot of time to work and process with photographs, dusting for prints), shots fired, etc. In a lot of larger cities the shift is busy trying to catch up on the calls the previous shift didn't get to. The cameras on school buses are a great idea.

Every single day here!!
People just don’t care

Years ago when I was a police officer I had to go before an accident review board and one person sitting was the city manager and 2 were city commissioners.
I had been going to a major accident in my marked police car with lights and siren and was hit by a drunk driver.
My explanation was that had he not been driving drunk and had he pulled to the right hand curb and come to a complete stop as required by law there would not have been an accident.
The city manager told me that just because I had lights and siren on didn’t mean others have to pull over and stop for me.
I won’t tell you my answer to them but they recommended 14 days on the beach. I didn’t even get a verbal reprimand from the Chief.
If these people sitting and judging don’t know then how do we expect John Q Public?
Common sense is not required anymore and morals and values are not far behind I am afraid.

Short of having police cars and officers with every bus it will always be a problem!!

Things are the same all over, aren't they? One time I was running hot and a car pulled two lanes over and hit my front fender and almost put me into a utility pole. Luckily the Lt. that investigated the incident noted on the ticket to the other driver that they had been drinking. Sometimes we are not hung out to dry.

 

[KeenDogg]

Thanks for all the input guys. I pulled out my phone yesterday and help it up like I was gonna record and no one moved. I think I'll keep this up. I am also going to call for a push to put cameras on our buses. It makes the most sense. I wish those few people could just care a bit more about others. I know, I probably couldnt survive if I killed a kid because I was in a "hurry".

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[njpaddy]

Prince Edward Island knows how to deal with the problem. 3 month loss of license and $5000 fine.

P.E.I. drivers who illegally pass school bus will lose their licence for 3 months | CBC News

 

[KeenDogg]

Prince Edward Island knows how to deal with the problem. 3 month loss of license and $5000 fine.

P.E.I. drivers who illegally pass school bus will lose their licence for 3 months | CBC News

I think this is what we need, sad that it has to be this way. Having my phone out and pointed is working for the time being.



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[Doc4]

Okay, okay, I'm stopping!

 

[oc_in_fw]

Prince Edward Island knows how to deal with the problem. 3 month loss of license and $5000 fine.

P.E.I. drivers who illegally pass school bus will lose their licence for 3 months | CBC News

That is the only way some people learn.

 

[KeenDogg]

Okay, okay, I'm stopping!

This!!!

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[Alacrity59]

I'm 100% about obeying the law and always stop for school buses with their flashers on. I was against the whole idea to begin with because, to me, we are teaching kids that a law will magically protect them. We need to keep teaching kids to be careful crossing . . . even with the flashers and on cross walks etc.

 

[Lightcs1776]

I'm 100% about obeying the law and always stop for school buses with their flashers on. I was against the whole idea to begin with because, to me, we are teaching kids that a law will magically protect them. We need to keep teaching kids to be careful crossing . . . even with the flashers and on cross walks etc.

I agree 100 percent. Kids (and adults) need to be aware that a law will only keep you safe from those following it, and those who are paying attention..

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