Just went through all three threads. I don't see ANYWHERE him saying anything about where the stone comes from.
Men you didnt ;-)
Post 14 Shaveden, Posted by Imperia La Roccia...
Read also the test result from HolyRollah at the End
Just went through all three threads. I don't see ANYWHERE him saying anything about where the stone comes from.
What if after purchasing the stone, you found out that you had already bought one previously that was just called something else?Personally, I don't care if the stone comes from Bute, Montana. They can call it whatever they like. If it works as well as their reviews proport, I'm sold.
What if after purchasing the stone, you found out that you had already bought one previously that was just called something else?
Can you either cite that post or provide a link to the post?
Personally, I don't care if the stone comes from Bute, Montana. They can call it whatever they like. If it works as well as their reviews proport, I'm sold.
Just went through all three threads. I don't see ANYWHERE him saying anything about where the stone comes from.
Can you either cite that post or provide a link to the post?
Personally, I don't care if the stone comes from Bute, Montana. They can call it whatever they like. If it works as well as their reviews proport, I'm sold.
+1. Could be the two guys in the video.This character is beginning to make me suspicious as well. I'm always suspicious of those who are newly registered and vigorously cheerleading/defending something being discussed.
This character is beginning to make me suspicious as well.
This character is beginning to make me suspicious as well. I'm always suspicious of those who are newly registered and vigorously cheerleading/defending something being discussed.
Seems to me (as Gar1 pointed out) you're ranting about a stone that you have NEVER owned or tried.
A couple of guys post a video about a stone they sell, yes, it's obvious they have an agenda. I'm sure either one of them would admit it. The question begs to be asked, what is your agenda? You go on and on about a stone that, again, you don't own and you haven't tried. All the while, you're pushing name brand stones that cost BIG bucks.
You say that the Imperia la Roccia can't be a good stone. How did you come to that conclusion? Eschers and Thuris are natural slate stones. So is the La Roccia. Eschers and Thuris are some of the most sought after stones. (I'm not saying that they are, but) How do you know that these stones don't compair with their high-end counterparts? Oh, wait, YOU DON'T KNOW! You've never tried them!
I'll refrain from addressing the paper cutting as I have no experience in the matter.
What at I find sad is this... This is my first time contributing to this forum and I feel the need to call someone out on their blaitent hypocrisy. Is this indicative of this forum in general?
What you need to do, if the product you are raving about is indeed good, is please list a comparison of other stones you are undoubtedly familiar with. Please list your preferred JNats, or at least your honing progression with synthetic stones you favor. Clearly you know quite a bit about honing and natural stones, so I'm eager to see how that knowledge can translate to information we can all benefit from. So far all I know is you like the video and you have disagreed with several established members who know quite a bit about the subject. I look forward to your valuable input!Interesting. At the risk of making myself "suspicious" to eKretz, he seems to be proclaiming that those new to the forum should be seen and not heard. They ought not to "defend something being discussed" without his direct invitation? When do new posters get to leave the kid's table? When eKretz says so?
One gets the impression you were bullied as a child. Now you get to try and create your own caste system from the relative safety of your keyboard. Was there a real argument you wish to make? Or do we just get a list of those "suspicious" (folks who disagree with you) and those who are free to join in (those who agree with you?) A little tyrant with big dreams and old scores to settle.
What you need to do, if the product you are raving about is indeed good, is please list a comparison of other stones you are undoubtedly familiar with. Please list your preferred JNats, or at least your honing progression with synthetic stones you favor. Clearly you know quite a bit about honing and natural stones, so I'm eager to see how that knowledge can translate to information we can all benefit from. So far all I know is you like the video and you have disagreed with several established members who know quite a bit about the subject. I look forward to your valuable input!
You're insuating that someone that doesn't have $1000's tied up in stones doesn't know how to hone.
I'm at least a little curious as to why (if you don't believe these stones to be any good) you would put them in the same race. Not saying they wouldn't preform well, but, then again, they're only $40 not $600.
Anyone have anything positive or negative to say about the performance of the stone? I'm seriously considering getting one and so far, from this thread, no one has given me any reason to not buy one.
You say that the Imperia la Roccia can't be a good stone. How did you come to that conclusion? Eschers and Thuris are natural slate stones. So is the La Roccia. Eschers and Thuris are some of the most sought after stones. (I'm not saying that they are, but) How do you know that these stones don't compair with their high-end counterparts? Oh, wait, YOU DON'T KNOW! You've never tried them!
Buy it...actually all information available on the boards was posted here, no more Threads are available....just one on Razorandstone. So isnt that enough to decide ?!?
Actually thats the point i still did not bought one of those because i havent seen one of the "active" members buying and testing one of those....for me not enough information to say "yeahh buy it"
Not knowing how experienced Holy Rollah is, i dont like that the result of the comparison between Imperia La Roccia and C12k....
That was cited from HolyRollah and it was the bottom Line missing before:
"Bottom line: I truly cannot detect any perceivable difference between the razors off the 'Italia Rocca' or the Chinese 12. Both cutting in similar fashion, requiring a significant number of laps, and more importantly, both stones feel identical (the tactile feedback of the grit) on all the lapping strokes.
If I were blind-folded (not recommended while honing ), I guarantee I couldn't say which stone was which, they are that similar. You'd almost think they were from the same quarry.
The final edges off both stones were both quite sharp (popping arm hairs), so either will provide a decent shave. For me, I now have essentially two virtually identical fairly-slow cutting finishers.
Since acquiring an Escher—which has a vastly different silky 'feel' than either of these stones, I don't foresee either of these other naturals getting as much use as I originally anticipated."