You say it as though it’s a bad thingStop with the "vintage Tabac"!! So far I've controlled my impulse to hoard Tabac, but comments like that will push me right off the cliff and I'll wake up tomorrow with a freezer full of Tabac sticks.
You say it as though it’s a bad thingStop with the "vintage Tabac"!! So far I've controlled my impulse to hoard Tabac, but comments like that will push me right off the cliff and I'll wake up tomorrow with a freezer full of Tabac sticks.
Hi martym, I'd like to place an order for Tabac with tallow pleaseSo maybe I am no longer looking like a hoarder and may now be viewed as a visionary?
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Many thanks, this will need some explaining to SWMBO…Freezer
Certainly!Hi martym, I'd like to place an order for Tabac with tallow please
That’s the extra freezer in the garage I use for deer, hog, trout, and redfish.Many thanks, this will need some explaining to SWMBO…
All I know is that I have enough soap backlogged in my stash already, that a change in Tabac formula will not affect me for 8-10+ years.
Now why does it reminds me of mergpijpjes pastriesSo maybe I am no longer looking like a hoarder and may now be viewed as a visionary?
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You are correct. I should have said more rightly "reformulated". Sodium Tallowate as the first ingredient was replaced by Sodium Palmate as the first ingredient. The end result is the same, a formulation change made things worse.
Their website now lists Sodium Tallowate as first ingredient again, so maybe a lesson learned.
I’ve been ‘certified to be free of brain tissue’ since I got married.Although I like tallow soaps, it is not a criteria for a soap that performs well. However, having a significant percentage of stearic acid (whether from tallow or from vegetable sources) is critical It just seems to be easier from the standpoint of the soapmaker to make a great soap based on tallow than one without it.
Formula modifications can be beneficial or they can be detrimental depending upon the driving force behind the modifications. In the States, artisan soapmakers are often making modifications to their formulations. They do so based on customer feedback in an effort to improve the performance of the product. Thus, most of these modifications are beneficial. Most of the best soaps in my collection were not available until the past two years. The formulations are relatively new.
In the EU, many of the formula changes have been driven by regulatory agencies, not customer feedback. The regulations have restricted or prohibited some ingredients used for decades. Oakmoss has been a basic ingredient in perfumery for well over a century. However, in 2017 it was banned in the EU because it could cause skin rashes in a small percentage of the population.
I think the regulations concerning tallow were a result of bovine spongiform encephalopathy (mad cow disease) which has been related to a variant disease in humans. As far as I have been able to learn, tallow is not banned, but any tallow used for cosmetics has to be certified to be free of brain and nerve tissue that might be infected by BSE. That prevents a soapmaker from purchasing beef fat from the local butcher and rendering their own tallow for soapmaking.
Do a few double-blind tests before you guys freak out. I'd be curious to know how many people can actually tell the difference enough to pick the tallow soap based on performance alone. In my experience if you go into this with the belief that tallow-free automatically means worse, then that is exactly the conclusion you'll reach regardless of objective reality. You always tend to find what you’re looking for.
How can they call it Tabac Original after removing tallow from the recipe? It's no longer original.
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I thought that too, but oakmoss is still used in the EU (e.g. C&S No.88 edc/edp)....Oakmoss has been a basic ingredient in perfumery for well over a century. However, in 2017 it was banned in the EU because it could cause skin rashes in a small percentage of the population...
I stopped reading after that... nonsense.All I know is that I have enough soap...