The Tech Clone Wars
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The LORD L122 from Egypt is a nice tech clone. Search for "lord tech razor" in the 'Bay search engine to find it.
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Well today I tried the MR11 handle I have with the Black Tiger head and it was a great combo. I really enjoyed my shave today. It was a 9/10 DFS shave. The extra weight of the handle mean less skipping/chattering that I experienced yesterday with the Black Tiger's original handle. Also, the threads on the MR11 are more plentiful, so I felt like the razor handle was more secure. Tomorrow, the Sumatra.
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I also feel that the Black Tiger, MR11 combination works really well together.
I'll be really interested to read about your Sumatra shave.
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Put on my obnoxiously strong cheaters and examined the Maggard V3M, RR Teck II, RR DE-1 and the 'no name' that looks just like the DE-1.
The only difference I found was the same ring at the base of the cap post on the RR DE-1 as you found on your wetshavingclub clone. That and the DE-1has 'RAZOROCK' engraved on the top of the cap.
To my eyes, with the exception of the DE-1 top cap, the four razor heads I examined are the same.
From your description, the wetshavingclub razor has the (slight) deviations from the rest?
Most interesting.
I have both Baili 171 and an “updated” 176.
176 is in a completely different league. Much milder and an excellent shaver if you like mild razors. 171 if I recall was somewhat rough, although I haven‘t used one in months.
Added: now that I think about this, I seem to remember that Baili changed razor head designs without changing the number in description. So the same 171 razor could be the older head (more aggressive, exposed blade tabs) or the same as 176 (much milder, covered blade tabs). To add to confusion, they are using different letters in front of the number depending on how it’s packaged. That’s likely why they eventually renamed the “upgraded“ 171 to 176.
Hmm... I probably should find my 171 and try it again, I’ve come to like more aggressive razors lately.
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I don't have a DE-1 yet, so not sure how it compares, but it does have slight deviations from the V3M. Super close, but it is the shave feel that really gets me. I will be interested in seeing how the Sumatra compares to the Black Tiger. I will know more in the next two shaves.
You sure it's a br171 not 131 (see my post about confusing numbers)?. I'm looking at eBay and Groomatoriuim listings for BR171 and it's same upgrade head as BD176 which someone else here confirmed. I agree the upgrade head is superior whatever numbers they give them.
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Yes, the “victory shaver” branded razor.
I’ve checked my Amazon orders and the older style razor was BT171. The newer style was BD176 but the same one was being sold as B-something 171. 176 is the same one as the upgraded 171, it seems like Baili had changed the numbers mid-production, perhaps because of all the confusion.
I actually have a free second BT171 (old style) because I ordered what I thought was an upgraded one on Aliexpress as a gift for my FIL, and instead got the old style one. The seller argued that he shipped the exact part number that I ordered, luckily I had the screenshot of his listing that clearly showed the new style razor. So the numeric part (171) can mean two different designs.
How about we just forget the model numbers? For reasons you make clear. And colors , cases , and handle designs.
Non upgrade head/upgrade head.
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I seem to recall when the Tek II came out it was reported to be made by Bali. Not sure if that is truth or speculation. Got my first Tek II as a free add on to an IB order. I have since bought several more for $5 to $8 and gave them to new de shavers. It's a good razor. I've also given away many real Techs and never had a complaint. Out of the vintage US models i prefer the late 40s model. But the British flat bottoms and the hybrid tech rule them all. This is a cool thread and I've enjoyed following it.
How about we just forget the numbers? And colors , cases , and handle designs.
Non upgrade head/upgrade head.
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Actually, the handles are important if you want to make sure you’re ordering the correct razor . The sculpted handle - to the best of my knowledge - only came with the “upgraded“ 171 aka 176.
The one on the right, the upgraded one, used to be my favorite razor but feels too mild now.
The older one on the left seemed harsher but I should try it now, I may actually like it more.
So to make it clear, is BD176 with the case sold on Amazon is the upgraded mild to get?
Pretty good speculation that Italian Barber doesn't have their own Chinese factory to produce Baili clones [emoji2]
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Yes. Look at the heads above if you have any doubt
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I’m a fan of Baili, yet to see one razor from them that was poorly made. And I own four and handled a couple more. They make cheap razors but well made cheap razors.
Thanks for the explanation
The one on the right looks like BD176 on Amazon but looks like the one on the left is also still available as BT171 with the case
If you want the new “upgraded” mild shaver, order 176.
If you want the older design and aren‘t sure which 171 to get, ask the seller if the razor covers blade tabs. Covered = new.
Yes Baili's official store still lists razors with both heads, lots of colors, accessories, all with different model numbers. I'm gonna put my fingers in my ears if people are gonna talk model numbers just get the upgrade head.
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