Old Spice Experts - Please Help
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I've wondered this myself as there's a store in a neighboring town that has about a dozen glass P&G Original Old Spice Aftershave bottles. Personally, there's not enough difference between the old and new for me to tell.
Okay here's what I know:
Those glass bottles with only Shulton on the back are Shulton original recipe (duh).
Those glass bottles with P&G and Shulton on the back are from the early take over period and could still have the original recipe.
Those glass bottles with only P&G on the back could be original recipe or not.
Plastic bottles are P&G recipe, original or not.
Although not an expert, I'm pretty certain that's the way it goes. I think there may be a thread posted where someone has actually done a chemicial analysis of both fluids to determine the difference, or not
Mike
Those glass bottles with only Shulton on the back are Shulton original recipe (duh).
Those glass bottles with P&G and Shulton on the back are from the early take over period and could still have the original recipe.
Those glass bottles with only P&G on the back could be original recipe or not.
Plastic bottles are P&G recipe, original or not.
Although not an expert, I'm pretty certain that's the way it goes. I think there may be a thread posted where someone has actually done a chemicial analysis of both fluids to determine the difference, or not
Mike
Okay here's what I know:
Those glass bottles with only Shulton on the back are Shulton original recipe (duh).
Those glass bottles with P&G and Shulton on the back are from the early take over period and could still have the original recipe.
Those glass bottles with only P&G on the back could be original recipe or not.
Plastic bottles are P&G recipe, original or not.
Although not an expert, I'm pretty certain that's the way it goes. I think there may be a thread posted where someone has actually done a chemicial analysis of both fluids to determine the difference, or not
Mike
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Thanks for clarifying, I believe you are saying that it could be either Shulton or P&G since it is a glass bottle.
Guess I will need to take a sample from my bottle to the grocery store with me and sniff it side by side with the stuff at the store.
Wonder if anyone will give me a funny look...
Guess I will need to take a sample from my bottle to the grocery store with me and sniff it side by side with the stuff at the store.
Wonder if anyone will give me a funny look...
P&G did not change the recipe; it's still the same as the Shulton recipe and the plastic bottle recipe is the same as the glass bottle recipe. The recipe has not changed.
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Do you have a source for that info?
The change in scent has been well documented through personal experiences on almost every shaving forum I have visited.
Strange thing that i may have to research (by looking a little closer next time) but i am sure that the local German drugstore sells OS in glass bottles. I only know as i saw them and took one out of the box for a smell. (White bottles.)
I have seen them in a couple of different drugstores here now i come to think of it, and not seen any plastic bottles...
I have seen them in a couple of different drugstores here now i come to think of it, and not seen any plastic bottles...
Even if this is true, they don't smell the same, and the smell is what I'm concerned with...not the recipe.
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The smell is exactly what I was refering to when I said recipe. Even if they just changed the percentage of each fragrance oil but it still contained all the same ingredients I would consider it a recipe change if it changed the scent.
Weird since the two smell nothing alike.
Are they from India? If so jump on them.
I do not doubt that the scent of 40 year old bottle, or even a 10 year old bottle of Old Spice may be different than the scent of a brand new bottle of Old Spice. It's very likely that the scent of a given bottle of fragrance will change over time. I also don't doubt that a new bottle of Old Spice may smell different than a person may remember Old Spice smelling many years ago. I think it is also possible that a change in the material of the container may affect the scent, or at least the perception of the scent. The question, however, was about the recipe itself, not the scent; and none of the above means the recipe was ever changed.
And yes, my source is P&G. I asked them very specifically if they had ever, at any point changed or altered the formula or scent of Old Spice. They very clearly and emphatically replied that they have not.
Again, P&G very specifically said they have not changed the scent at any time.
I fully believe that it smells different to different people; that does not mean that P&G changed anything. It could very easily be explained by the extreme subjectivity of an individual's sense of smell, as well as fragrances changing with age. That simple, reasonable explanation, coupled with the fact that P&G has absolutely no reason to lie about it (the handful of wetshavers on this forum who are concerned about it are a drop in the bucket), makes it easy for me to decide what to believe. The idea of a conspiracy is preposterous. Not to mention, the "new" Old Spice smells exactly like the Old Spice I used in the 70's to me.
At any rate, believe what you will, and by all means use what you like!
I agree with MrMoJoe. Old Spice today is the same as Old Spice of yore.
At one time, I had convinced myself that it did, indeed, undergo a formula change. I think, now, that it was my sense of smell that experienced periodic changes. I have worn Old Spice since first learning to shave back in the late 1970's. I have officially jumped off the "conspiracy" bandwagon.
I have been wearing P&G Old Spice cologne exclusively for the past couple of months and now, much prefer it over my stock of Shulton. My nose had become accustomed to the scent of decades old Old Spice and even though I do love Shulton aged, the stuff right off the shelf is pretty awesome. It lasts just like Shulton throughout the day and dries down to the great spicy, sweet vanilla that I recall even my dad wearing......because it IS the same stuff. I do not care for the plastic bottle but I still buy it (I wish they would offer larger size bottles than the 4oz).
Hank
At one time, I had convinced myself that it did, indeed, undergo a formula change. I think, now, that it was my sense of smell that experienced periodic changes. I have worn Old Spice since first learning to shave back in the late 1970's. I have officially jumped off the "conspiracy" bandwagon.
I have been wearing P&G Old Spice cologne exclusively for the past couple of months and now, much prefer it over my stock of Shulton. My nose had become accustomed to the scent of decades old Old Spice and even though I do love Shulton aged, the stuff right off the shelf is pretty awesome. It lasts just like Shulton throughout the day and dries down to the great spicy, sweet vanilla that I recall even my dad wearing......because it IS the same stuff. I do not care for the plastic bottle but I still buy it (I wish they would offer larger size bottles than the 4oz).
Hank
I also agree that the change (or lack of) does not warrant running out to India to buy Shulton Old Spice.
Awaiting an order of OS from India, when it arrives I will have to compare old and new.
The motivation for my order was about 50% wanting the "Shulton" formula and 50% it's the only place I've seen new OS Lime (really looking forward to trying).
The motivation for my order was about 50% wanting the "Shulton" formula and 50% it's the only place I've seen new OS Lime (really looking forward to trying).
"Is this the P&G PR machine?"
"Why, yes. What would you like to know?"
"Uh, that Classic Old Spice you're marketing...Is it really exactly original, or would you like to blow millions of dollars you've spent advertising it to 'fess up to a few really minor technical changes that are of no concern to the majority of consumers, but are important for an enclave of obsessive wet shavers who are rejecting a big chunk of your product line anyway?"
"Hmmm, let me think about that...'K, it's unchanged. 'Course, that depends on what the meaning of the word "is" is...."
"Thanks, Oh font of corporate honesty!"
"Why, yes. What would you like to know?"
"Uh, that Classic Old Spice you're marketing...Is it really exactly original, or would you like to blow millions of dollars you've spent advertising it to 'fess up to a few really minor technical changes that are of no concern to the majority of consumers, but are important for an enclave of obsessive wet shavers who are rejecting a big chunk of your product line anyway?"
"Hmmm, let me think about that...'K, it's unchanged. 'Course, that depends on what the meaning of the word "is" is...."
"Thanks, Oh font of corporate honesty!"
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To the OP: After your package from India arrives, PLEASE put this discussion to rest (for a while, at least) by posting your findings in this thread. A couple of years ago, someone I know quite well
opened a sealed Old Spice gift set from the early '80s and compared the scent of the OS aftershave to that of a bottle of P&G Old Spice purchased at the local CVS pharmacy. There was a discernible difference between the two scents. Further, the "old" Old Spice lasted several hours longer than the P&G version.
I'll give you an answer that will leave no room for misunderstanding.
I am so disgusted with the decline of P&G's that I mix it with dog shampoo to make them my dogs feel cleaner after a bath. After it is gone I won't buy any more.
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