I have a TM strop with Dee rings. I've found I like holding the strop from the caps instead of the rings so I decided to remove them. I got a screwdriver and tried to open the Chicago screws to take out the rings but the screws simply spin in place and I can't seem to get enough purchase on them to loosen them. I don't want to do anything hasty and scratch or strip them, does anybody have any recommendations how best to secure the screws enough to loosen? Thanks!