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Hones? What do I need to know?

Does there exist somewhere a primer of sorts on natural stones? JNats in particular? Maybe a chart of some kind for which stones are roughly which grits/stages of honing? What you'd need for a bevel setter, middle steps, finisher... (I've been searching without much luck)

Something about natural stones just intuitively makes me think it'd give a more smooth and natural feeling edge... kind of like the difference between analog and digital. Digital might be technically perfect, but analog sounds better due to it's imperfections...
 

azmark

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Whether coticule or Jnat there is no real "grit" rating. I rather rate them by their hardness; the harder the faster and in essence higher grit.

I think we can work on what certain stones are considered harder than others and maybe different methods to hone with them.
 
Since posting this I have not stopped doing JNat homework and have a better understanding on how they work... Enough to know that I don't know anything! But enough to know that such a comparison graph can not ever exist... Believe it or not, the most helpful Jnat page I read was on coticule.be!
 

azmark

Moderator Emeritus
Since posting this I have not stopped doing JNat homework and have a better understanding on how they work... Enough to know that I don't know anything! But enough to know that such a comparison graph can not ever exist... Believe it or not, the most helpful Jnat page I read was on coticule.be!
That thread by JimR is awesome!
 
Whether coticule or Jnat there is no real "grit" rating. I rather rate them by their hardness; the harder the faster and in essence higher grit.

I think we can work on what certain stones are considered harder than others and maybe different methods to hone with them.
I believe this true for Japanese awasedo in terms of fineness, but I have not noticed any such patterns with the half dozen coticules I've used (nor has Bart, apparently).
 
Need a question answered If you would, please pm me with an answer. Can I use Chromium oxide paste (green squeeze bottle) as a slurry on my Norton water stones. Thanks to all who reply!!
 
Need a question answered If you would, please pm me with an answer. Can I use Chromium oxide paste (green squeeze bottle) as a slurry on my Norton water stones. Thanks to all who reply!!
Well, you COULD do anything you wanted, but I would not use a paste on a synthetic hone, especially a soft one. I would use a paste on a hard natural hone, preferably a less porous one, or a cheap one. If you have a Cnat or a slate hone, or a piece of balsa wood go for it.

I use CrOx on a balsa strop with good results. I got it from Whippeddog.com

Phil
 

Luc

Moderator Emeritus
Need a question answered If you would, please pm me with an answer. Can I use Chromium oxide paste (green squeeze bottle) as a slurry on my Norton water stones. Thanks to all who reply!!
I do not see why you would use a stone with a paste...
 
What happened to the video link with the guy doing half laps from the start on a coticule? Can you provide me with a link again? That was a good one IMO.
 

Luc

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What happened to the video link with the guy doing half laps from the start on a coticule? Can you provide me with a link again? That was a good one IMO.
I do not remember this video, if someone does, please post.
 
I do not remember this video, if someone does, please post.
Never mind. I found it. It's azmark's, under the "Honing Series: Coticule & Japanese Natural" heading. Sorry for the false alarm, but thanks for the quick response.
 
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is there any way to get user input on films? which manufacturers, or where to buy? my google-fu must be weak, but I've only seen one page to buy, that I think Slash McCoy said was overpriced.

perhaps even a film sticky for neophites like me?

please and thank you.
 
Pyramid honing, regular progression, Ax honing method, Burr honing method, unicot, ..... :blink::confused1:confused1:crying: I'm a novice to straight razor honing and I'm pretty confused by this whole business. Could someone give a quick and dirty overview of all these methods with the pros and cons? That would be greatly appreciated.
 
Some natural hones such as coticules will not form a burr. Burr forming is only useful for setting the initial bevel using a relatively low grit synthetic stone or lapping film.

Sorry I can't give more.
 
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