D.R Harris: Is it the next house to drop Tallow?

[Tom Ford]

Hi Gents,

I just received this email from D.R Harris. (See attached). While the new range sounds impressive, could it be, the beginning of the end of tallow as an ingredient in Harris soaps? I know its merely speculation, but the word 'natural', and the royal stamp, which to date has seen the removal of tallow and demise of Penhaligons about to happen to D.R Harris?

I don't mean to be a scare monger, but isn't this the way it always starts? I visited the site earlier, but I can't get any info regarding the ingredients of the soaps mentioned to confirm?

Has anyone else received this, or purchased the new range?

 

[Cambyses]

It's my understanding that Harris has had the "naturals" line for quite a while now. This sounds like they just revamped the lineup or are pushing some advertising to try to get more sales on it, to me.

 

[azmark]

Close this thread before the rumors fly!

 

[Cliff Porter]

Tallow is natural...

 

[Cliff Porter]

Vegan friendly too as long as you don't eat the soap

 

[altshaver]

Vegan friendly too as long as you don't eat the soap

Not really. Veganism is not only tied to dietary consumption. For instance, look at Tony Miller's Vegan strops.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veganism

 

[Crixus]

That lemon and ginger mix sounds nice.

 

[jgkeegan]

Close this thread before the rumors fly!

+1

 

[ouch]

Vegan friendly too as long as you don't eat the soap

Not really. Veganism is not only tied to dietary consumption.

Can vegans ride horses? How about petting a dog?

 

[gaj90027]

I ordered 17 pucks of Arlington today just in case







jk of course...

 

[xillion]

What's next?

"Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together... mass hysteria!"

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3ZOKDmorj0[/YOUTUBE]

 

[40boy]

It's been out a while and was reported to be "unfit for shaving" according to one poster.

http://badgerandblade.com/vb/showthread.php?t=102567&highlight=harris+natural

 

[john parker]

Innocent comment, but it sounds like the final drop for D.R. Harris won't be a very long fall. The wiki now lists it as "tallow - sort of..." Being a new soap user, happy with D.R. Harris lavender and anticipating trying almond, how much tallow is actually in it? Which makes me wonder how important tallow really is?

 

[Legion]

My two favorite soaps are DR Harris Arlington and Cade. One has tallow, one does not.

Both work equally well.

 

[alabamalawyer]

Innocent comment, but it sounds like the final drop for D.R. Harris won't be a very long fall. The wiki now lists it as "tallow - sort of..." Being a new soap user, happy with D.R. Harris lavender and anticipating trying almond, how much tallow is actually in it? Which makes me wonder how important tallow really is?

Tallow is the 2nd listed ingredient on D.R. Harris soaps, at least on the ones I have. I believe at one point, tallow was the first ingredient in the soap. I did have a D.R. Harris lavender soap that listed tallow way down the list, about 5th or 6th ingredient. This was a couple of years ago and the lavender pucks I've had since then all have tallow listed second.

 

[gull]

Vegan friendly too as long as you don't eat the soap

I hope you're joking...

 

[xillion]

Tallow is the 2nd listed ingredient on D.R. Harris soaps, at least on the ones I have. I believe at one point, tallow was the first ingredient in the soap. I did have a D.R. Harris lavender soap that listed tallow way down the list, about 5th or 6th ingredient. This was a couple of years ago and the lavender pucks I've had since then all have tallow listed second.

Indeed it is. I just received my Marlborough and Arlington in the mail today from WCS. Here is the label.

 

[Doc4]

Innocent comment, but it sounds like the final drop for D.R. Harris won't be a very long fall. The wiki now lists it as "tallow - sort of..." Being a new soap user, happy with D.R. Harris lavender and anticipating trying almond, how much tallow is actually in it? Which makes me wonder how important tallow really is?

It's a very useful ingredient in good soap, as are various other non-tallow ingredients. The difference between the best tallow-first soap and the best tallow-free soap is probably not that much, but as Penhaligons and Floris have shown, if you take the best tallow soap and reforumulate to take out the tallow, what you end up with can be utter crap.

And yes, there are soaps out there that prove that having tallow is no guarantee against making crap soap, either.



... but we all know that if DRharris tinkers with the recipie, the result willl be a lesser soap than the one they make now.

 

[drumana]

Tallow is natural...

Exactly.

 

[Cliff Porter]

Not really. Veganism is not only tied to dietary consumption. For instance, look at Tony Miller's Vegan strops.

I was being a little tongue and cheek. I have a vegan buddy who will wear leather shoes in a minute and one that stopped eating lettuce from South America because the animal used to plow the fields is not treated humanely and is not fed non-animal safe feed.

In the end I try for balance and freedom. I am cool with the guy who will only eat lemongrass he grows himself and is still upset at the pollution of airplanes flying over his garden and I am okay with the guy who kills seven animals during hunting season and eats them all....so long as neither of them try to make it a law that I do it their way.