From the one stick of ARKO along with Jikoryen that I’ve tried it seems like they’re more suited for the push up style. The Jikoryen is a little softer than the ARKO to me but the ARKO stick I had could just have been an older one lost some of the moisture from itOh I am not talking Vito soft in a deodorant twist container. Think Arko. That is more like it.