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How long did you wait for the wolf - or was it a third-party purchase? I’m still in que…
How long did you wait for the wolf - or was it a third-party purchase? I’m still in que…
That's why it still interests me. I've never used one of the "aggressive" razors.... or the "less than smooth" razors. @Mr. Shavington has the Claymore Evolution and the Blutt 1.2. He told me, they are similar but the Blutt BR-1 is a notch up in efficiency. I am vacillating..... buy a higher end DE or just be content with my Claymore Evolution.Excellent "wholly" trinity choices for the safety razors gentlemen. I am gladly intrigued to see the BlackBird listed oh so many times.
I'd recommend the 1.20mm blade gap plate for the Blutt BR-1. It truly is a smooth shaver, I do not feel the blade as on the BlackBird. Overall the Blutt-BR-1 is a milder yet efficient razor.
Cheers,
-thecutter
I came to the top of the list in 2.5 months. I was going to buy a Wolfman Darwin handle, but I passed. I might put myself back on the list in a few months. I have some decisions to make.@Strumbringer
How long did you wait for the wolf - or was it a third-party purchase? I’m still in que…
I have been trying to keep my mouth shut, but I have been secretly rooting for you to get the Blutt 1.2, I have known about it for some time. I think one of the criteria you should make/consider is the handle, you should get a handle that you like for the money. I think the one it has is a good compliment to your preferred Timeless handle. I think getting one is a better investment than the Razorock and would instantly obsolete it. I see they are out of stock in the US, but the price direct is no worse. I know I have come close in the past, but there are a few details that I didn't care for. Now I am done buying for quite some time.That's why it still interests me. I've never used one of the "aggressive" razors.... or the "less than smooth" razors. @Mr. Shavington has the Claymore Evolution and the Blutt 1.2. He told me, they are similar but the Blutt BR-1 is a notch up in efficiency. I am vacillating..... buy a higher end DE or just be content with my Claymore Evolution.
I decided not to buy the Wolfman Darwin handle for now. That means the Blatt would only be an extra $50, unless I added a more mild base plate.I have been trying to keep my mouth shut, but I have been secretly rooting for you to get the Blutt 1.2, I have known about it for some time. I think one of the criteria you should make/consider is the handle, you should get a handle that you like for the money. I think the one it has is a good compliment to your preferred Timeless handle. I think getting one is a better investment than the Razorock and would instantly obsolete it. I see they are out of stock in the US, but the price direct is no worse. I know I have come close in the past, but there are a few details that I didn't care for. Now I am done buying for quite some time.
I've read about the Vector here quite a bit, as I'm sure you know. I'm a bit concerned it might be too aggressive for me. As I've mentioned, I'm too inexperienced to really know what I like but I think I like the mildness of the Claymore Evolution. I don't seem to need to bump up my Claymore Evo by using the Feather Pro or Super blades. The Feather ProGuard works well, as well as the Kai Captain Titan Protouch MG guarded blades. I've tried all the AC blades and those two work the best for me... all except the Feather Pro and Super Pro, because I haven't need that extra bump.I recommend the Blutt 1.20 which I have but on all accounts my Vector Ti is better. Since I have the Claymore Evo polished with Alpha titanium handle it is very smooth and surprisingly efficient for its mildness. The Vector polished in stainless or Titanium will suit you as:
1. Way more nimble than 99% of razors out there. Gets into very tight spots.
2. More efficient than Blutt 1.20 as it has more effective blades. Put a Feather Super and you will know how efficient it can be. Put a Shick Proline and it will be a daily driver easily or Feathers Pros.
3. You already have experience with SE’s which will make for an easy transition.
4. The Blutt 1.20 is very well engineered, very tight tolerances but the Vectors design is so simple but works so well. It has that happy medium Goldilocks blade gap and exposure that will suit many faces, ymmv lol.
5. Despite Blutt being clamped down better like a Wr1 Wolf, the Vector commands better edge to edge control. In use it feels like no other razor. (Edit: this is due to SE blades being much thicker then DE blades)
6. Its precision is like a surgical instrument, you can detail your sideburns.
7. Its light weight makes it fun to use. Its like a Ferrari while the Blutt is like a Volvo, well built. Volvos are cool too, but its not a Ferrari.
8. Very smooth against the grain, I would call this a tie.
9. The Blutt you load the blade easier, its a pain for the Vector. I install the blade backwards half the time.
10. Sadly, imo the Vector will be your #1 razor over the Claymore, I can put money on that.
I hope this helps you making a wise decision @Phoenixkh
Nice! The Lupo Oc climbed up your chart really quick. One of my best purchases this year. I like your list.1) Wolfman WR1 SS SB .74
2) Wolfman WR2 SS SB 1.15
3) RazoRock Lupo SS OC .95
My only addition to some of the most condensed reasoning I have read advocating for the Vector from @Calm_Shaver : For a brief window of time the Vector has the potential to be a little aggressive depending on how quickly you lock in to it its unique very low head profile vs blade gap. But once mastered, it is incredibly tame with significant dynamic range in efficiency, both through AC blade options but also effectiveness of the razor handling. It took me about 1.5 months of regular shaving with it to finally become intuitive with it, because I was so used to registering placement of a razor head based on more conventional DE style head profiles, including the Razorock Hawk.I've read about the Vector here quite a bit, as I'm sure you know. I'm a bit concerned it might be too aggressive for me. As I've mentioned, I'm too inexperienced to really know what I like but I think I like the mildness of the Claymore Evolution. I don't seem to need to bump up my Claymore Evo by using the Feather Pro or Super blades. The Feather ProGuard works well, as well as the Kai Captain Titan Protouch MG guarded blades. I've tried all the AC blades and those two work the best for me... all except the Feather Pro and Super Pro, because I haven't need that extra bump.
For some odd reason, the Schick Prolines just don't work on my face with the Claymore Evo..... They should, but they are rough and struggle to cut my whiskers. I know they are loved by many Vector users so I expected they to be excellent for me. I ended up ordering two packages of 30. That's how confident they'd be great for me. No such luck.
My only concern with this list: It is confirming my intuition that I need to try the R41@Phoenixkh
From experience I’ll rank Aggressive for the some razors:
Mildness = lower number:
Claymore Evo : 4/10
Blutt 1.20 : 5/10
RFB : 5/10
Vector Ss : 6/10
Vector Ti : 5/10
Blackbird Ss: 8/10
Blackbird Ti: 7/10
Timeless.95 Ti : 7/10
Gamechanger.84: 6/10
Tech: 2/10
ASd2 : 1/10
Cobra Classic: 9/10
R41 Ti: 9/10
Lupo 95 Oc: 8/10
Lupo 95 Sb : 7/10
This is of course my opinion. So with the Vector it’s nothing to worry about. The whole razor will feel very intuitive as you like the Crown Ti handle which I also enjoy. You can add that to the Vector head if you prefer it more.
You definitely need to try it. It is nothing to be feared but you do have to be mindful & technique+blade choice is everything. Definately not a speed shaver or for beginners. Light pressure and 2 slow passes and your’re BBS, extremely efficient. It does have some blade chatter but nothing to worry about.My only concern with this list: It is confirming my intuition that I need to try the R41
@Phoenixkh
From experience I’ll rank Aggressive for the some razors:
Mildness = lower number:
Claymore Evo : 4/10
Blutt 1.20 : 5/10
RFB : 5/10
Vector Ss : 6/10
Vector Ti : 5/10
Blackbird Ss: 8/10
Blackbird Ti: 7/10
Timeless.95 Ti : 7/10
Gamechanger.84: 6/10
Tech: 2/10
ASd2 : 1/10
Cobra Classic: 9/10
R41 Ti: 9/10
Lupo 95 Oc: 8/10
Lupo 95 Sb : 7/10
This is of course my opinion. So with the Vector it’s nothing to worry about. The whole razor will feel very intuitive as you like the Crown Ti handle which I also enjoy. You can add that to the Vector head if you prefer it more.
Thanks a lot. One thing I do like about the Claymore Evo is the thin head design. The Vector head has an even thinner profile, I think.... but since I've only seen photos, you'd be able to shed some light on that.My only addition to some of the most condensed reasoning I have read advocating for the Vector from @Calm_Shaver : For a brief window of time the Vector has the potential to be a little aggressive depending on how quickly you lock in to it its unique very low head profile vs blade gap. But once mastered, it is incredibly tame with significant dynamic range in efficiency, both through AC blade options but also effectiveness of the razor handling. It took me about 1.5 months of regular shaving with it to finally become intuitive with it, because I was so used to registering placement of a razor head based on more conventional DE style head profiles, including the Razorock Hawk.
Every time I come back from a DE session, my appreciation for the Vector increases. But I just received a Blackbird Ti, and I enjoy the Lupo .95 OC as well. So DE for me is in part variety, but also trying to explore efficiency increases in the larger base of DE vs the smaller pool in SE AC razors.
+1 re Tatara! I too much prefer the SB baseplate.No particular order, preference changes. I think that's why having a few choices is nice.
- Timeless Ti 95
Steep angle smoothness. It's efficient, but if you don't keep the angle steep it can feel like it's about to bite due to the gap. With the steep angle and a light touch, the moderately large gap is toothless. I don't like how parallel to my face the handle sometimes is.
- Henson limited run Al13 +++
Mindless safety, sneakily efficient. It's the equivalent to the Timeless in the results it produces, but gets there differently. Larger blade exposure feels the same as the Timeless due to the amount of blade bend. Great handle angle, but the locked in shaving angle isn't for everybody.
-Tatara Nodachi with both Masamune plates
I started with the OC plate because the exposure is the same as the Timeless, but I don't like the way the teeth feel. I am coming around to preferring the SB plate because I like the way it feels and the amount of blade feel. All around, very well manufactured razor that can cover a variety of user preferences. One of the strongest clamping razors on the market, you can feel it after using other razors. I love the dark finish, it's half the reason I wanted the razor. The shape of the top cap and how it interacts with my face is my favourite part about the shave. I actually enjoy using this more than I care about the results, but it is plenty capable. I just tend not to like sharper blades any more. The only downside I can come up with is the blade angle is flatter and that makes the blade feel higher.
I have another razor incoming that will likely replace the Henson on a top three list, but certainly won't send it to the BST. The other two have there spots secured for various reasons. The blade bend on the new razor should be similar to the Henson, but the shaping of the head will be different(lower profile). The shave should be similar, but feel a little different.