Well after several days of shaving with a disposable shaver I have come to the conclusion that the single blade Bic that I have now used two of are for nothing more than hair reduction. LOL I am shaving in the shower using shave sticks or Williams mug soap as a shave stick and Bic single blade disposables. I do not want to be negative but those razors are cheap (as in quality of shave) and I am surprised to say that I got a better shave with a triple blade Personna disposable. Who'da thunk it. My arm still hurts but hey it could have been worse and thank you all for the support.