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Bowl Lathering: Boy, did I have it wrong!

Ever since I began wet shaving, I have been an advocate of face lathering.

I am coming to the reluctant conclusion (it’s only taken 15 years) that maybe my skin doesn’t tolerate it that well. I often have some ruddy discoloration on my cheeks after shaving and had come to accept it as a cost of doing business. I now suspect my vigorous face lathering may be partially responsible. Synths are definitely worse than natural hair in this respect - that's one reason I prefer boars - but it's all abrasion, and it looks like the line between pleasant exoliation and excessive friction is finer than I thought.

Having this realisation, it was reading some posts by @Phoenixkh that finally convinced me to reconsider my lather making process. I have noticed that we have similar experiences in terms of prep routines that work for us, blade choices, how our skin reacts to soaps, etc. I noticed that he was a bowl man and decided to experiment.

Last night I grabbed a bowl from the kitchen and had a test run with a couple of soaps. I gotta admit, the results were impressive. Sure, the cleanup takes a bit longer, but to my surprise, getting the lather dialed in was much faster. Today I used the bowl for my actual shave. The warm lather from the bowl was a pleasure. My skin seems pretty happy, and would no doubt be even happier if I had used a fragrance free soap.

I have to admit it: I have been wrong about the inferiority of bowl lathering for many years. I suspect my negative early experience was largely because I had just started wet shaving and didn’t have a clue what I was doing. I am not saying I will never face lather again, but I think the bowl is going to become my primary method.

When I began wet shaving, I knew that I knew nothing. After many years, I came to believe that I did know something. Now, I am discovering that many of the things I thought I knew were wrong. Wet shaving is like life in miniature.

The search for the perfect bowl begins!

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P.S. I realise this isn't of much general interest, but I didn't have anywhere else to put it. Maybe I should start a journal for this kind of thing...
 
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I bought several "proper" shaving bowls but none of them was ever big enough. I'm much happier with a big breakfast-cereal bowl with three (four might have been better) glass beads glued in the bottom. Think about how your brush will sit in the bowl when it's resting before you glue in the beads.
 
The great thing about ‘traditional’ wet shaving is that we have so many approaches that work!!

One of the best parts about B&B is that is that we have a ton of educational resources that make it easy to learn about options that may not be part of your daily routine!:popc::popc:
 
I also started to notice that face lathering was (is) more harsh and exfoliating to the skin than it seemed.

Some of my post shave irritations were mostly because of brush burn. It took some time to realize that.

But don’t give up on it, a good soft boar and a painting motion is all it takes for an irritation free face lathering.

Drop the swirling and mashing, it adds nothing to the lather other than air.

A good floppy boar painting is as gentle as it can be.
 
I have a Timeless bowl that I really like. I have been using it strictly for creams.

I also have some dry spots that don't seem to go away, so I wonder if they are the result of face lathering.

I may try bowl lathering exclusively for a month to see.
 
But don’t give up on it, a good soft boar and a painting motion is all it takes for an irritation free face lathering.

I have been reorganising my active brush rotation by, "good for the face" and "bowls only". Certainly, some of the boars like the Omega 10108 or Semogue 1250 will still get used on the face sometimes, but all my synths and my Pro 49s are going to be bowl only from now on.

I may try bowl lathering exclusively for a month to see.

It can't hurt to experiment right? That's my attitude. Another plus side is soaps which are a bit borderline for me due to the fragrance spend less time in contact with the skin. I don't think it's going to mean I can suddenly use the really heavily scented artisan stuff, but every little helps. :thumbup1:
 

musicman1951

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You can produce the same lather with your face or a bowl - so neither is better in that regard. I formerly believed bowl lathering was better because I had lots of experience using a scuttle and my forays into face lathering were less than satisfying. After face lathering exclusively for many weeks I found they could both produce the same lather with the required technique.

Bowls: size would be my main concern. I'd try many different kitchen bowls until I found my happy place before I shopped. I'd strongly suggest considering a scuttle. The warm lather in the winter is a delight, and each pass feels a little warmer. I use a Georgetown G12 and like that I can hold it in my left hand as I build lather, but you might like something larger.
 
I have absolutely mastered face lathering any soap, but cannot get bowl lathering to produce similar results. I always have to put the lather on my face and sweep back and forth to take it from fluffy to dense. I'm sure I'm doing something wrong but there are no effective lathering guides online that are sufficiently thorough.

I'd like master it so I can make shower lather for my woman when she shaves in the shower. She likes my soaps.
 
I use a coarse finish (gritty inside) hand-thrown clay bowl from Goodwill. I leave my puck in the bowl, so no issuse with reloading if it starts a tad thin, and no extra cleanup.

Different takes on the process and different goals to achieve. I'm more utilitarian, so I want rich lather, no particular concern for temp, and minimal investment. One day, I'm sure my favorite bowl will have a terminal encounter with the floor... Might be time to try a scuttle. Hopefully later than sooner, tho'!😊
 
I always have to put the lather on my face and sweep back and forth to take it from fluffy to dense.
I'd like master it so I can make shower lather for my woman when she shaves in the shower. She likes my soaps.
Perhaps more water can help get to the consistency you seek in the bowl. There are a couple variations on the beloved "Marco Method." Personally, I do not do the sopping brush, but using a fairly damp brush I hold the soap up-side-down over the bowl and swirl, getting the soap in and then swirling in the bowl to the right consistency, adding small amounts of water along the way.

The original Marco Method for face lathering:

Another perspective:
 
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