Out of curiosity, did you try the Hawk too?
RazoRock ECO First Look
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RR should offer a "buy-back" for this (ECO) dangerous monstrosity.......put mine away in the back of a drawer ..... don't want anyone going near it !!
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I tried the Hawk but I do not like the wide blade format, so the Hawk has remained ignored. I do have a large stock of DE blades, which makes the ECO more attractive as a candidate for modding, rather than putting effort into the Hawk with it's more costly blades, of which I do not have in stock in volume. I used the following link on shimming as my primary guide, paying close attention to reverse shims.
Modifying Safety Razor Aggressiveness & Efficiency with Blade, Shims, Reverse Shims, and Tape Strips
Summary A guide for modifying DE and SE safety razor aggressiveness and efficiency is presented and explained in detail Modifications of blade width, blade thickness, shims, reverse shims, and tape strips under cap edges are considered with respect to their effects on safety razor parameters...
www.badgerandblade.com
ECO is in my view a good razor to mod due to ample blade exposure, reverse shims reinforce, guard and mitigate the blade exposure to a manageable level. the ECO can be transformed into razor equal to a Schick injector in terms of comfort and efficiency, absolutely top shelf. Not bad for a rough horrorshow product.
Thanks for that fantastic link, I just printed it!
May I ask what material you use for reverse shims, please?
Thanks again!
May I ask what material you use for reverse shims, please?
Thanks again!
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Has anyone contacted IB about a v2 or a buy back considering this sounds like the ECO needs some mods to be able to be useable?
Are you shaving against the grain? I've used alot of DE's and never noticed much chatter, and sting has always been due to using too much pressure or wrong angle (riding the bar).
I don't think its realistic to expect a DE to be ideal shaving against the grain.
i like my eco and i havent had Any problems with it. i used the blades that came with it and did it the way they directed it to be used and i get great shaves with it. im sorry to hear some are having troubles with it because i really like it.. i had not even thought about using a shim with it but now i might just have to try one just to see what the difference is....
OK, my final thoughts on the ECO. I've tried everything. Doubled up the blades, heavier handle (that did improve the shave somewhat, but not enough), different angles, etc. At this point, I've thrown in the towel. This is one rough shaving razor! I didn't get as much irritation as the amount of chatter while shaving would lead me to believe, BUT, the chatter was horrible. Truth is, I do like heavier razors but wanted to try a lightweight. I had used a few injector razors a long time ago and liked the way they performed so I thought I'd try the ECO. I'm done with it. Yesterday, I returned to my Merkur gold plated Futur and decided to try the Merkur blades in it. I can't believe the difference. The razor glided over my skin with no chatter or tugging, almost as if there weren't a blade in it. So, this was the first shave with the Merkur blades and it reminded me of the first shave with the British Wilkinsons many years ago when they were first introduced to this country through hardware stores. At this point, no more experimenting. I'm enjoying this Merkur combination too much to screw with it.
I'm guessing your Merkur Futur is DE, since I don't think Merkur makes the Futur in SE, but maybe try breaking a Merkur DE blade in half, and stick it in your ECO before giving up on it??? I've read SE razors are more picky with blades than DE razors. I for one tried the ECO once and while there was chatter the cheap Derby blade I tried wasn't horrible, but I haven't tried shimming mine yet.
i honestly haven't had problems with any blade i have tried in the ECO so far. I guess I got lucky with mine.