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Proraso Green vs Taylor's Peppermint 1/2-1/2 shave

JCinPA

The Lather Maestro
This grew out of my trying Proraso Red last week, for the first time. I am not normally a fan of sandalwood scents, but Proraso Red I really like. @Marco was singing its praises and he is, perhaps, the foremost soap/cream expert at B&B, and I take his recommendations seriously.

I have a tub of Taylor Peppermint which has been my summertime "cool shave" and I wanted to pit it against Proraso Green, surprised that I could not turn up a comparison of the two already. Let me preface this by saying, in general, creams are always a tier 2 shave for me. I've never had a cream that rose to the tier 1 lathers for me (tallow Tabac, Cella orginal, Stirling mutton tallow Varen, S.V.), but I enjoy using them occasionally. My favorite cream of all time in terms of shave comfort and post shave feel was Taylor's discontinued Avocado. But I have been very much enjoying the tub of Peppermint I have.

To keep things as close as possible for the left/right half shave today, I bowl lathered so I could be very tuned in to what I was doing. I used two synthetic brushes, a Stirling Tuxedo, and a Reyes Restores reknotted clear acrylic brush I use in my travel kit. I did not have Proraso branded cream, but rather a C.O. Bigelow tube I also use in my travel kit, which is Proraso Green. I can't keep track of reformulations, but that tube is maybe 3 years old, and was definitely the current formulation for that time. I was able to generate identically hydrated lathers with each. The razor is a Henson AL13++, the blade a Gillette 7 O'Clock Black, shave #4 today.

I wanted to do an "everyday" shave which is why I did not grab a new blade. I did not do touch-ups, per se, but I did a light 3rd pass, then a 4th pass on my neck and jawline. Here is the kit for today's shave. I figured the alum block would give me feedback on any difference between right/left sides of my face, and the AV Ice Blue is a fairly strong Alcohol Splash and a perfect finish for this cooling shave.

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I have to tell you I will disappoint you. When these comparisons are done, the audience wants a clear winner--and I just can't give you one. This is like the old Ninja vs Spetznaz blade thread I did in 2011, sent out a bunch of Gillette blacks and blues for shavers to try and the results were a dead heat. Same here.

From a shave standpoint, the alum block did not highlight any differences between right/left half. After the alum, I used Thayer's WH, and a plentiful splash of AV Ice Blue, again, could not feel any difference. After a half hour dry down, I cannot tell much of a difference between closeness, although there might be a very slight edge to the Taylor side. Overall the shave was 9.5 DFS very comfortable. If it was not shave #4 on the blade, I'm certain it would have been a BBS, which I get easily on the blacks on shaves #1-3.

From a subjective side, which may not be how you feel about things, I'd have to say the Taylor was more pleasurable. After 13 years of regular use, the Proraso is familiar, and I like the scent, but the Peppermint is simply more pleasant to my nose. Both Peppermint oil and Eucalyptus are good for the skin, which is why both work so well, but my subjective feeling is the Taylor felt, well, colder than the Proraso. It's hard to describe in words but the Proraso was cool, the Taylor was cold. Neither is like the arctic menthol bomb some of you like (I don't) but the Taylor felt colder to me.

Overall, I think these two creams are equals in terms of shaving efficacy and comfort post-shave, you can use either with confidence. And I suspect your favorite will come down to purely subjective evaluation like how you like the scent or feel, I doubt anyone will detect much of a difference in the shave itself.

Tie!

Both of these are excellent shaving creams, and will always have one or the other in stock, probably not both, it would seem redundant to me. Well, I'm likely to always have a small tube of C.O. Bigelow because along with an old La Toja stick, those are my travel lathers. But I would say buy either with confidence if you've not tried them. If you have tried one, try the other, and see what you think. You could pair these with any number of cooling aftershaves, the Proraso Green is highly regarded here, although I've not tried it. For you cool freaks, either of these would be a nice prelude to your arctic splashes. Highly recommend both.
 

Marco

B&B's Man in Italy
A wonderful write-up indeed, John! And I agree on almost everything, with the sole exception that I give a slight edge to Proraso against any cream. But, as you wisely declare, it's a personal choice or subjective matter.
 

JCinPA

The Lather Maestro
I would say I did not detect any difference in the shave, but I cannot edit it now. About 3 hours later I can detect no difference whatsoever so the slight edge I mentioned before in closeness, I'd probably should have said was a tie. Re: your comment about Proraso, I would say you can detect much finer differences between products than I can and I would defer to your judgment.

Still, for me, this was pretty much a dead heat between them, and I am likely to continue to stock the TOBS for den use and Proraso for travel use, and occasional use at home as well.
 
I have used both Proraso Green and TOBS Peppermint extensively. IMHO, the TOBS Peppermint is superior to Proraso Green in every respect. The slickness, the ability to whip up a good lather, and the scent are all much better with TOBS Peppermint. I'll continue to use the rest of the Proraso Green that I have only because I hate to throw our product, but that will be the last of it.
 

JCinPA

The Lather Maestro
Ah, I appreciate your love for the TOBS Peppermint, but I have to think it probably boils down to very subjective judgments about things like scent. I cannot believe "ability to whip up a good lather" is a determining factor, both of these are so easy to lather one cannot give the edge to either, IMNSHO.

Do you use an alum block after your shave? I will tell you that you won't likely notice a difference in post-shave feel, which has to be an indicator that one is not significantly more slick than the other. I think these are two very similar creams in terms of performance. Scent and coolness are very different, to be sure.

One may prefer one to the other, but they are very, very close in performance, I believe. Like you, however, I prefer the TOBS Peppermint, Marco prefers the Proraso, but I am glad I can continue to use both--TOBS Peppermint in my den, Proraso in my travel kit.

Vive la différence!​

 
I don't see a use for an alum block. I apply skin lotion after I shave and then a few minutes later, apply my aftershave. There's really no purpose in an alum block.

I judge how slick a cream is by the feel of the razor as I'm shaving, and the ability to do a quick repeat stroke over the area I just did. I find it non-existent with Proraso Green, but it's easy with TOBS.

As far as whipping up a good lather, it takes much more product with Proraso Green than it does with TOBS Peppermint to produce the same amount of lather. And it requires a lot more whipping. I use a skuttle, not face lathering.

People can use whatever they want, and should. I'm just providing what my experience is, which is different than yours.
 

JCinPA

The Lather Maestro
I don't see a use for an alum block. I apply skin lotion after I shave and then a few minutes later, apply my aftershave. There's really no purpose in an alum block.

I actually agree, I just got one a while ago to see what the fuss was about. Usually I do Thayer's WH while cleaning up, then my A/S splash. The reason I used it for this shave specifically was that I wanted to see if there was any change in comfort between right/left sides, that's all. It works for that sort of evaluation, and I did not notice a difference.

I think Proraso does take a little more, but that's simply because the TOBS is a bit denser. But that does not translate "not as easy to lather" to me. I get preferring TOBS Peppermint, though, I think I do, as well. But the creams are simply not that far apart in performance. Any edge is slight, Marco says for the Proraso, we say for the TOBS, but any edge is razor slim and probably heavily scent influenced.
 
Just used a sample of TOBS Lime Zest - had forgot how slick it is and how plentiful the lather is from half a sample.
I like Proraso as well - both is really good stuff.
 

JCinPA

The Lather Maestro
I’m now a newly converted fan of Proraso red, so I think I’ll stick with the TOBS Peppermint mostly based on the wonderful scent. I bet the lime is good! I’m not a big lime fan, myself but I bet it’s a good scent.
 

Marco

B&B's Man in Italy
I’m now a newly converted fan of Proraso red, so I think I’ll stick with the TOBS Peppermint mostly based on the wonderful scent. I bet the lime is good! I’m not a big lime fan, myself but I bet it’s a good scent.
For me during cold winter months there is no better cream than Proraso Red. And, as for all Proraso colours, it's particularly great and enjoyable when used in combo with its matching preshave cream.
 

JCinPA

The Lather Maestro
LOL! Funny you mentioned that, Marco! I was browsing the ProrasoUSA site this morning and discovered that preshave cream was Proraso's very first product! The shave cream came after. And, I happen to have some red preshave on hand from a PIF I got a few years ago and I used it this morning before S.V. Opuntia. What a shave I had!

I'm in trouble, I think. You've been a bit of an enabler for me over the years, but for the most part, I've stuck with classic and economical products, the "old school" stuff. S.V. really made me appreciate stepping up my game a bit, and I love their aftershaves!

But I had breakfast with @Dtownvino yesterday, he's local to me ... and he is going to REALLY get me in trouble. He loaded me up with at least a dozen soap samples yesterday, and I think my shave den is in danger of some geometric growth, and my shave lathers are going to go up in price.

Oh well. It's cheaper than a mistress, cars, or guns, I suppose, and less dangerous than all of them. Especially the mistress. :lol: I guess I can't get in too much trouble.

P.S. Who am I kidding? I can get in lots of trouble. I bought another razor from him after recently professing my undying love for the Henson AL13++! And he wasn't even selling. I did it to myself! :D
 

Marco

B&B's Man in Italy
John @JCinPA the Ludovico Martelli Company, owner and manufacturer of Proraso, was founded in Firenze in 1908. Exactly 40 years later in 1948 the Proraso brand was created. Their very first product was the legendary Pre & Post Cream, almost immediately renamed "Pre-Barba Miracolo" = "Pre-Shave Miracle". It was an absolute novelty, as there was nothing truly comparable on the Italian market, for both Master Barbers and men.

As about brands I am sticking to my top 3: Saponificio Varesino, Proraso and Haslinger. The only new one I desire to add to my den is a quality shaving soap stick. As we discussed recently La Toja is sadly no longer the same and I need to find a worthy substitute.

On a side note, many years ago Proraso used to produce a shaving soap stick! Pic below. :cuppa:

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John @JCinPA the Ludovico Martelli Company, owner and manufacturer of Proraso, was founded in Firenze in 1908. Exactly 40 years later in 1948 the Proraso brand was created. Their very first product was the legendary Pre & Post Cream, almost immediately renamed "Pre-Barba Miracolo" = "Pre-Shave Miracle". It was an absolute novelty, as there was nothing truly comparable on the Italian market, for both Master Barbers and men.

As about brands I am sticking to my top 3: Saponificio Varesino, Proraso and Haslinger. The only new one I desire to add to my den is a quality shaving soap stick. As we discussed recently La Toja is sadly no longer the same and I need to find a worthy substitute.

On a side note, many years ago Proraso used to produce a shaving soap stick! Pic below. :cuppa:

In all fairness I used Proraso for years and still do on occasion (mostly white but sometimes blue creme).

However @JCinPA received a samples of Ethos and MacDuffs. I think he will be happy. It was a nice breakfast and enjoyed it a lot. Looking forward to doing it again sometime - hopefully we can find more wet shavers in our area.
 

Marco

B&B's Man in Italy
In all fairness I used Proraso for years and still do on occasion (mostly white but sometimes blue creme).

However @JCinPA received a samples of Ethos and MacDuffs. I think he will be happy. It was a nice breakfast and enjoyed it a lot. Looking forward to doing it again sometime - hopefully we can find more wet shavers in our area.
I wish I could participate with both of you, but being on the other side of the Atlantic simply makes it impossible. Anyway, enjoy your time!
 
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