JNAT help

[BakerAndBadger]

Hi,
As some of you may know, my brother lives in Japan. This week he managed to land me a couple of jnats. The two hones are from a barber that closed and include two koma naguras. I've also got him to pick up a set of Botan, Tenjyou and Mejiro. Now the question I have is what to do for a tomo? I don't know the particular type of jnat so I'll be fishing blind. Any advice? Oh, I don't have pics just yet, I'll stick em up tomorrow or Wednesday.



Thanks,

Paul

 

[Filarmonicafreak]

Hallo Paul
You can create slurly with a diamant Plate! Atoma Works Good!

You should check Out your j NAT with a Thin Koma slurly that should work as Same as Good if you work as Long as the slurly is dark grey

Have Fun with your Stones

Daniel

 

[BakerAndBadger]

Cheers Daniel, so the Tomo isn't really necessary - that's what I supposed but wanted clarification.
Has anyone here actually cut a Tomo from their toishi?

 

[Puerco]

I think the tomo nagura is the most important nagura of them all. Slurry from a diamond plate will be different than slurry created with a tomo nagura and will not break down in the same way.
You don't have to use the exact same tomo nagura as the base stone but a softer tomo will create mainly slurry from the tomo and a harder tomo more from the base stone.
JNS always has a nice selection of stones and naguras, Maksim is a great person to do business with and ships fast. It took 26 hours for my order to travel from Denmark to the Netherlands (door to door). You can ask him what you need, there's a live chat on his website.

 

[Doc226]

I think if you have a good awasedo then a DMT card is fantastic way to raise slurry. The optimal tomo is one derived form the identical stone.

 

[BakerAndBadger]

Right then, as I don't know the name of the stones it looks like I'll call them Hiro and Ken and get myself a DMT card.

 

[Gamma]

When selecting a Tomo, It is not important to know the name of the stone. What is important is to know the qualities of the stone.
Tomo means 'same' or 'friend'. The Tomo should compliment the Awasedo, as well as the user ad the task at hand.
In other words - you can use an Ozuku Kita Tomo on a Nakayama Asagi - as long as its getting the job done.
I have cut a Tomo off the host stone more than once, while aesthetically pleasing, it's not necessary.

No way in hell would I be running a DMT of any grit on any of my Jnats to raise a slurry.

I will, occasionally, use an Atoma 1.2k to raise a slurry on a super-hard stone; but- as mentioned above it's not the same as using a Tomo Nagura. The Atoma still marks the surface, not as bad as any DMT though, and I can live with it.
Any diamond plate or card or whatever is suspect when it comes to shedding diamonds though.

Even though the Atoma is of a much higher quality than a DMT, Most of the time, I just use a slightly softer Tomo.

 

[Bayamontate]

When selecting a Tomo, It is not important to know the name of the stone. What is important is to know the qualities of the stone.
Tomo means 'same' or 'friend'. The Tomo should compliment the Awasedo, as well as the user ad the task at hand.
In other words - you can use an Ozuku Kita Tomo on a Nakayama Asagi - as long as its getting the job done.
I have cut a Tomo off the host stone more than once, while aesthetically pleasing, it's not necessary.

No way in hell would I be running a DMT of any grit on any of my Jnats to raise a slurry.

I will, occasionally, use an Atoma 1.2k to raise a slurry on a super-hard stone; but- as mentioned above it's not the same as using a Tomo Nagura. The Atoma still marks the surface, not as bad as any DMT though, and I can live with it.
Any diamond plate or card or whatever is suspect when it comes to shedding diamonds though.

Even though the Atoma is of a much higher quality than a DMT, Most of the time, I just use a slightly softer Tomo.

Post of the day!

Iwasaki and many OGs didn't use diamond plates to create slurry or lap stones either, that's enough for me not to use them.

 

[BakerAndBadger]

OK then so I need a Tomo.
Now here is the million dollar question, as I won't be getting hold of the stones until next month at the earliest, and my bro has no idea how to hone a razor, can I still choose a friendly tomo?
Would I be right in thinking that the harder tomo the better in this case? I don't fancy running the stones through my tile cutting saw so will probably look to a-frames.


Would an Okudo Suita or Ozuku be a good tomo to start with? There are also a couple of Nakayama Honyama and a wakasa.

 

[Gamma]

Buy one of each - see what works best for you.

 

[BakerAndBadger]

I can see the entry to the hole from here!