Is there a cream similar to Prorasos performance without chemicals? EDTA?

[Vitamin Shave]

I read some nasty things about the Tetrasodium EDTA, I am sure the concentration is very small, but just wondering if anyone has a cream that they like which works the same or better without the chemicals?


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[Foyle]

All soap has chemicals. You can't make soap without them.

 

[dcobranchi]

EDTA is added to soaps to bind Ca[sup]2+[/sup] ions in your tap water. If your water is reasonably soft, you can get by without it. In hard water conditions, it makes a big difference for latherability.

 

[graysonhenryrussell]

Why are you even worrying about this, most of this hype about parabens & other things in shaving creams harming you is plain crap. If they do cause harm which has not been proven, you would have to injest huge amounts for several lifetimes. You are in more danger walking out your door each day.

 

[Ashley Rosser]

Don't breath, you might OD on Oxygen.
Don't overdo water, that'll kill you too.

These scare stories have been around for generations, the only thing that changes is what'll kill you if you drink/eat/breath or absorb several orders of magnitude in quantities of the current scary stuff that you'd ever use in two life times.

 

[iGuitar93]

If the shaving cream doesn't get you the strawberries, apples and now rice will.

Funny you mention rice. I just read an article in discover magazine saying rice and rice products have shown to have alarming concentrations of arsenic. Concentrations higher than the acceptable level in drinking water. This was in the current issue.

 

[Beftus]

These scare stories have been around for generations, the only thing that changes is what'll kill you if you drink/eat/breath or absorb several orders of magnitude in quantities of the current scary stuff that you'd ever use in two life times.

+1 Stuff like EDTA, parabens and SLS are quite common components of pharmaceutical drugs. These aren't as dangerous as everybody says they are. Using a product containing these isn't gonna kill you. An allergy however is a different matter.

 

[nwjs]

+1 Stuff like EDTA, parabens and SLS are quite common components of pharmaceutical drugs. These aren't as dangerous as everybody says they are. Using a product containing these isn't gonna kill you. An allergy however is a different matter.

EDTA is not easily biodegradable and accumulates in the environment, where it has several effects. If you're ecologically minded, it's probably going to give you a cleaner conscience if you buy products that do not have this. It isn't necessary -- for example, Speick cream doesn't contain EDTA and lathers very well.

 

[JerYnkFan]

Funny you mention rice. I just read an article in discover magazine saying rice and rice products have shown to have alarming concentrations of arsenic. Concentrations higher than the acceptable level in drinking water. This was in the current issue.

If that is the case then most of China & Latin America will be dead soon.

 

[dcobranchi]

EDTA is not easily biodegradable and accumulates in the environment

Not true.

there is no evidence of bio-accumulation of EDTA in aquatic organisms. Although EDTA does not past tests as “readily biodegradable”, EDTA will biodegrade very slowly in soil or water and the salts of EDTA are water soluble and rapidly degrade with light (e.g., by photodegradation) when in the hydrosphere. In fact, results of a monitoring study near a paper mill indicate that very little EDTA was detected downstream from a discharge site and that concentrations were higher in deeper than shallow water. These results are consistent with photodegradation of salts of EDTA in the aqueous environment.[SUP]14[/SUP] Conclusions from the European Risk Assessment of EDTA show that there is no risk to the environment.[SUP]15[/SUP]

 

[nwjs]

Not true.

Interesting... however, there seems to be some debate over that issue:

However, Kari and Giger[SUP]32 [/SUP]point out the factual impossibility of such phenomenon on the basis of the intensity of light and the adsorption phenomena of photostable complexes of EDTA. This is in agreement with its relatively high concentrations that have been found in European continental waters[SUP]6,7[/SUP]. According to the literature, there may be photolysis under high transparency conditions and in shallow watercourses. In the study of Kari and Giger[SUP]32[/SUP], performed in natural waters, photodecomposition of the EDTA-Fe(III) complex is reported as the main degradation process.

I don't avoid products with EDTA but if I have the choice between similar ones, I prefer to take the one with less potentially 'bad' stuff in it.

 

[Gustav]

I think the Fitjar shaving creams are pretty much free of most controversial ingredients, however you would have to inquire because I cannot seem to find any detailed ingredient list on their homepage.

 

[Blasthoff]

Has anybody compiled a list of shaving cream related illnesses? LOL I guess soap can be nasty stuff, at least that's the impression I get from 10 year olds.

 

[Facial Blood Donor]

Every time a lab rat dies, I lose something that's fun or convienient.

 

[Beftus]

every time a lab rat dies, i lose something that's fun or convienient.

lol!

 

[Labowski]

I personally never worry about the chemicals in my creams and soaps. Unless there is conclusive, finite, scientific or medical evidence that directly links somehitng in my creams/soaps to any kind of negative health issues; I'm not gonna think twice about it. Plus, given the line of work I do, I'm exposed to exponentially harsher chemicals, even with proper PPE.

 

[Vitamin Shave]

I feel like there are more natural ingredients is all, and that it is mostly guided by the cost.

If there were products that excluded it with just as good performance, why not?

 

[coolcanuc]

Has anybody compiled a list of shaving cream related illnesses?

I don't know of any lists, but I think it would be called SCAD.

 

[Blasthoff]

Tommy, Sorry about that, I said it as an "off the cuff" joke. I do agree on your take about cancer. I just don't worry much about shaving cream when I think about all the "unnatural" nasty things I have had contact with over the years. Solvents, thinners etc, even gasoline. In particular concerning our food, I think as time passes we learn more and more that pretty much anything altered from or not "natural" is NOT very welcome to our bodies. Hydrogenated oils have been one of my peeves for many years and is only now raising concern. "Solidified oil" is just not a natural "food" and our bodies are not adapt at processing, sorting and absorbing it as it should. It is in fact, really, a man made substance and we can hardly avoid ingesting in modern times.

 

[Marc999]

Funny you mention rice. I just read an article in discover magazine saying rice and rice products have shown to have alarming concentrations of arsenic. Concentrations higher than the acceptable level in drinking water. This was in the current issue.

That was very unfortunate to read since I'm a huge rice fan. Wild rice, Basmati, love it all - with a nice blob of butter.