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Gillette Single Rings with British Patent Numbers
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R
romsitsa
Hello,
the outer and inner tubes are most probably missmatched. The very interesting part is that it should have the serial on the comb, so was it also replaced or did the worker forgot to stamp it?
Is there any trace of a comb replacement?
Any markings on the top cap?
Adam
Hello gentlemen.
My first Single ring found in Serbia, where I live too.
Serial number on outer barrel: F 253738
PAT.NOV.15.04.N on inner barrel
Gillette diamond logo on cap (underside) and baseplate (upperside)
G in D sqare
Patent information on the case
no arrow in the logo
Pics after cleaning:
Add it to the Wiki please.Thanks.
Cheers!
My first Single ring found in Serbia, where I live too.
Serial number on outer barrel: F 253738
PAT.NOV.15.04.N on inner barrel
Gillette diamond logo on cap (underside) and baseplate (upperside)
G in D sqare
Patent information on the case
no arrow in the logo
Pics after cleaning:
Add it to the Wiki please.Thanks.
Cheers!
Thanks, Adam.
No number on the comb, even after a proper clean-up and polishing (I'll post photos, of course). And I also shall look for traces of a replacement.
Another detail that's attracted my attention is that the inner barrel seems to be a tad "shorter" so it's (unusually) tighten just after a couple of turns; that might well prove a mismatch too. But the bolt of the top cap doesn't seem to have been used with a longer inner barrel... soooo.... Hmmmm...
Watch this space, more soon.
R
romsitsa
Hello,
just browsed Achims site looking for a 1906 razor, while noticing, that there are two G marked SR-s, sorry if this topic was discussed earlier.
This is the "British", G5031, with no 0 dividers (Nr. 1):
http://www.mr-razor.com/Rasierer/Old Type/1906-08 British Old Type.JPG
But also found this example with Pat.Nov. stamp and a six digit code starting with G (Nr. 2):
http://www.mr-razor.com/Rasierer/Old Type/1905 Gold Single Ring from Mark Spencer.jpg
I'm wondering if Gillette used G for gold plated Single rings before the A series went into production? (It looks like they did)
Or are those two above G markings different?
Is G5031 a very early US produced razor for the British market?
I can't fit a six digit G code into the 1905-6 dating system, so how was this "early" G code used?
Was it a seperate run of razors or every razor got a continous date code and gold plated ones received a further G stamp? (Looks like the second method was used)
Thanks for your inputs
Adam
just browsed Achims site looking for a 1906 razor, while noticing, that there are two G marked SR-s, sorry if this topic was discussed earlier.
This is the "British", G5031, with no 0 dividers (Nr. 1):
http://www.mr-razor.com/Rasierer/Old Type/1906-08 British Old Type.JPG
But also found this example with Pat.Nov. stamp and a six digit code starting with G (Nr. 2):
http://www.mr-razor.com/Rasierer/Old Type/1905 Gold Single Ring from Mark Spencer.jpg
I'm wondering if Gillette used G for gold plated Single rings before the A series went into production? (It looks like they did)
Or are those two above G markings different?
Is G5031 a very early US produced razor for the British market?
I can't fit a six digit G code into the 1905-6 dating system, so how was this "early" G code used?
Was it a seperate run of razors or every razor got a continous date code and gold plated ones received a further G stamp? (Looks like the second method was used)
Thanks for your inputs
Adam
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Adam,
Years ago there were several threads discussing these razors and, while such discussions are only speculation, the general opinion was that the G series of that time designated a Gold razor and had the continiuous serial number but with the G prefix. There was also some opinion that the G later came to also include "special order" razors, but as always, these opinions were also based on speculation.
Cheers, George
R
romsitsa
Hello George,
nice to hear from you, and thanks for your input. I'm wondering about the serial of G5031.
If it's a really early gold version, then it shouldn't have the script box and metal blade banks. On the other hand its serial has no zeroes, like British ones, so it's more likely to be a US manufacture from the time when A or B was used as a prefix. But this also doesn't make too much sense to me.
Adam
nice to hear from you, and thanks for your input. I'm wondering about the serial of G5031.
If it's a really early gold version, then it shouldn't have the script box and metal blade banks. On the other hand its serial has no zeroes, like British ones, so it's more likely to be a US manufacture from the time when A or B was used as a prefix. But this also doesn't make too much sense to me.
Adam
Some before/after pictures of the quite possibly mismatched Brit Pat SR. George, no serial number at all...
R
romsitsa
Turned out very nice Juan.
I can't make out any trace of a comb swap, so the most logical explanation would be that this is an early US (Brit.Pat. marked) handle/head and the serial was on the inner barrel.
After the thread wore out, the owner replaced it with another barrel from a razor that had the serial on the comb and patent info on the inner barrel.
Adam
I can't make out any trace of a comb swap, so the most logical explanation would be that this is an early US (Brit.Pat. marked) handle/head and the serial was on the inner barrel.
After the thread wore out, the owner replaced it with another barrel from a razor that had the serial on the comb and patent info on the inner barrel.
Adam
Thanks, Adam.
Yes, there's apparently no swaping, so that appears to be a most logical explanation. On top of it, the inner barrel seems to be a tad short, as even if it screws perfectly, you only need a couple of turns.
Now at work, but I'll remember to measure the inner barrel... I remember you were asking about different lenghts regarding inner barrels (you are always measuring things...
). Maybe that magnitude could help?
R
romsitsa
Hello Juan,
I don't have enough samples at hand, and don't know which Brit.Pat. razors are truely British made, so I can't make any comments on the inner barrel.
All I can add is that one Brit.Pat. razor I have is definitely shorter than others, with a shorter inner tube.
Adam
I don't have enough samples at hand, and don't know which Brit.Pat. razors are truely British made, so I can't make any comments on the inner barrel.
All I can add is that one Brit.Pat. razor I have is definitely shorter than others, with a shorter inner tube.
Adam
Thanks, Adam.
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Best guess at this stage is that it was from the A or B era, and would have had the A or B prefix which was replaced with a G while retaining the number sequence.
Cheers, George
I acquired this razor recently, from Spain. It is a 1916 Single Ring, #D26356, and obviously made in the U.S. for export to Britain (or elsewhere).
I also acquired this #461B combination set. It is obviously a double stamped British made set, #F30391, however the case does not have the diamond logo on the bottom, as I believe it should. Could someone fill me in on this?
Thank you,
Kevin
Thank you,
Kevin
This set arrived yesterday, from an E-bay seller in Italy.
It is a British set, with serial number H107639, and has
the typical double Diamond and Arrow logos.
I will replace the blade box with a proper one....
The British collection is growing!
Cheers,
Kevin
It is a British set, with serial number H107639, and has
the typical double Diamond and Arrow logos.
I will replace the blade box with a proper one....
The British collection is growing!
Cheers,
Kevin
R
romsitsa
Amazing set. Why would you swap the blade bank? I like how it shows the age. And if all parts are present, it could be repaired.
Adam
Adam
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