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Back in the old days when coticule.be was around we used to talk about bevel angles. If you have a really old razor with a ton of wear on the spine, using the calculator is a great way to check your angle.
Hey Jose!!!!
Take a GD and do a pass. Then take a vintage and see if anything got left behind. And vice versa. I did that and proved to myself that the higher angle left nothing behind. Try it and see for yourself. Same pass same type of hone.I began straight shaving with various models of Gold Dollars. I got good shaves with decent comfort. Then I got a couple of vintage blades and got closer shaves more easily and more comfortably. Yep, I believe there is something to bevel angle after all. Good thread. Thanks.
Been there and done that and you are right. Never got BBS with a GD. Daily occurrence with vintage. Vintage more comfortable too.Take a GD and do a pass. Then take a vintage and see if anything got left behind. And vice versa. I did that and proved to myself that the higher angle left nothing behind. Try it and see for yourself. Same pass same type of hone.
Been there and done that and you are right. Never got BBS with a GD. Daily occurrence with vintage. Vintage more comfortable too.
Nothing wrong with any razor that you prefer. It's your choice and money after all. The w59 is +/- 15 degrees. If the angle is the issue with a 66 this one should solve that problem if it is a problem. Not sure if you tried one of those yet. I used.to.think that wedges we're the deal. I got my first bbs with one and went out trying to find more of them. Now I don't own any of them. And would gladly take a full or extra hollow anyday over a wedge. I'm not saying what your saying isn't valid. And don't buy a w59 if you don't have one just for an experiment..Pass around sounds good. Looking forward to it. Haven’t used a GD in a while. I’ve been picking up some vintage stuff and honing and shaving with those. I’m surprised that you can pick up nice blades for so little. Have to admit I did spring a few bucks for a NOS Bengall but not on the bay. Should be here Saturday. Before I hone it, I’ll measure and check the bevel. I bought a razor with a “modified” blade for the scales I’m going to put on my 66 and sell the other GD’s. Not really impressed with the W series. I bought a Soligen back in 1982 and started honing it and found the spine was bent a bit. By then time I got it to lay flat it had a bevel that was all over the place and the bevel angle checked out to about 12 1/2 degrees - very uncomfortable shave. Nice scales to salvage though. Back to the original point of all of this - I’ve only done between 80 and 90 shaves and I’m still improving. If I used a GD in the morning, I would likely get a better shave than the last time I used it. I’m only having to do two passes now and the first pass would be acceptable by most standards. Anyway, I’m on 1u on a Sefton Crown Jewel and need to finish so I can give it a spin in the morning so good night to all.
I have the W60 and W62. The scales are too heavy on the 60 and I don’t like the point or short blade on the 62. No problems with the edges. I’ll probably sell them and keep the 66 and change the scales. I still like the 66. Just haven’t used it in a while because I have other blades I’m playing with right now. I’ll get back to it.Nothing wrong with any razor that you prefer. It's your choice and money after all. The w59 is +/- 15 degrees. If the angle is the issue with a 66 this one should solve that problem if it is a problem. Not sure if you tried one of those yet. I used.to.think that wedges we're the deal. I got my first bbs with one and went out trying to find more of them. Now I don't own any of them. And would gladly take a full or extra hollow anyday over a wedge. I'm not saying what your saying isn't valid. And don't buy a w59 if you don't have one just for an experiment..
That's what cash is for.What if you don't have any friends?
I have never seen anybody prove anything like that thru objective tests like hht etc I haven't been able to prove it to myself either. Lol. What's the best razor? Ask 100 guys and get 100 different answers. If barbers shaved men with straights today I'm sure they would use gds for their low cost .That's what cash is for.
Lots of folks talk all kind of stuff in and around razors. There's all sorts of mythology and hocus pocus. But this notion that "bevel angle is important" is easily tested, if folks are willing to do a simple blind test and stop hiding behind bs.
I'm not sure about that, but...Slightly off topic. A barber round the corner, where I go to get my hair cut, wants to do shaves with real SRs. The council agreed - provisionally - that he could, but only if he uses a new SR every time. I'm discussing with him the possibility of using the GD66s, honed by me, and he just gives them away to the person being shaved at the end.I have never seen anybody prove anything like that thru objective tests like hht etc I haven't been able to prove it to myself either. Lol. What's the best razor? Ask 100 guys and get 100 different answers. If barbers shaved men with straights today I'm sure they would use gds for their low cost .
Yo!!! Whats good guys!!!Holy Blast from the Past Batman.......
JOSE!
Hi!!! Its been forever guys!!!Back in the old days when coticule.be was around we used to talk about bevel angles. If you have a really old razor with a ton of wear on the spine, using the calculator is a great way to check your angle.
Hey Jose!!!!
I would put the ura side down on a flat surface and measure the height of the omate hone contact point with a height gage. Divide the height by the distance of that point to the edge then Arc sin to get the angle.First, how do I calculate a kamisori bevel angle, each side the omote and the ura are different?
Secondly, because the kamisori have soft spines metal which wears faster than the hard steel it seems that the bevel angle could change almost every few honings,
Alex Gilmore
I would put the ura side down on a flat surface and measure the height of the omate hone contact point with a height gage. Divide the height by the distance of that point to the edge then Arc sin to get the angle.
2 mil Kapton tape could be used if you don't want the angle to change and just omit it if you would rather work toward a more acute angle.
I'm assuming that I got the ura and omate sides correct. I understand the ura to have the wider active width.