Even the review thread has too many non review posts. Some quite informative though
Where is the Tallow?!
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That's an interesting way to look at it. Thanks.
I ain't crazy and i've got the certificate
to prove it.
Brother, I've SIGNED those certificates that made the cert you are talking about necessary.... I rest my case. (Wow. Now I sound more lawyerly than @luvmysuper ....)I ain't crazy and i've got the certificate
Just got a puck in from Amazon seller " Zu - Store." It is the old formula. Ordered two more pucks. Looks like they have 13 more in-stock.
Check out Chanel perfume. Your Grandma knew perfectly well it had to be used sparingly. Alas, the problem with her purse was, it couldn't be washed or dry cleaned, so the scent would build up over the years. The same problem applies to silk scarves, furs and other winter coats, which can only be cleaned gently and occasionally or they won't last long. My mother preferred Cuir de Russie. But if you put your nose up to a bottle of full strength Chanel no. 5, which is more commonly seen, don't be surprised if it reminds you more than a little of Tabac.
Personally, I found @RussellR5555's review contributive.
That new Tabac "matched" SV (which is no slouch) in terms of lather/performance is encouraging news.
Had the review been highly critical of new Tabac (vs SV), it would have been informative too (albeit disappointing).
(Don't know why he abstains from tallow, but I have no good reason to believe his review was to downplay tallow Tabac.)
That new Tabac "matched" SV (which is no slouch) in terms of lather/performance is encouraging news.
Had the review been highly critical of new Tabac (vs SV), it would have been informative too (albeit disappointing).
(Don't know why he abstains from tallow, but I have no good reason to believe his review was to downplay tallow Tabac.)
My apologies if I made it seem as if he had ulterior motives, I don't mean that at all.
I do think that though it may be a valuable review for non-tallow users, for me it is of very little value in determining an answer to the burning question-
Did Maurer & Wirtz lessen a fabulous soap.
There certainly are a lot of different opinions but this thread served a valuable purpose. We all know that Tabac has been reformulated without tallow. Whether the new formulation will be better, worse or equivalent may be debated for years.
The real value was the heads-up about this and the opportunity for those that wanted to stay with what they know and love to stock up on the tallow product.
Choices and preferences vary but this thread did its job. Thank you for making me aware of the change and the opportunity to plan accordingly.
The real value was the heads-up about this and the opportunity for those that wanted to stay with what they know and love to stock up on the tallow product.
Choices and preferences vary but this thread did its job. Thank you for making me aware of the change and the opportunity to plan accordingly.
It also let me know that it has been reformulated in the past. Albeit with tallow.
Exactly.
The discussion in this thread and the parallel ongoing thread brought up one more interesting detail. The obviously significant change of the scent.
Tallow vs non tallow - that would not have been the deciding factor for me not to buy the new soap, as long as the new formula performs. A signifant change in fragrance, however, does.
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No worries, not necessary as far as I'm concerned, my last statement wasn't directed at you. I just put it there lest the idea occurred (to anyone).
I found the review offered some insight and encouragement, despite being a user of tallow myself.
But I see your point. Thanks.
Laurates can be synthetic or natural; synthetic laurates are used by soap manufacturers for cleansing, emulsifying or as a surfactant. Tabac has replaced a natural surfactant, potassium cocoate and removed tallow.
Did I mention that I love Lilac Vegetal?
By the way - Lilac Vegetal aftershave is a superb pairing with the Tabac soap smell!
Anyone who likes the smell of Tabac ought to also like Lilac Vegetal!
By the way - Lilac Vegetal aftershave is a superb pairing with the Tabac soap smell!
Anyone who likes the smell of Tabac ought to also like Lilac Vegetal!
It was just gettin' good!
I thought we had agreed to disagree?
You seem to be confused by chemistry and also by ingredient labels. Laurates are soaps (not synthetic detergents). The parent chemical is lauric acid, a medium chain saturated fatty acid with 12 carbons. Lauric acid literally grows on trees. The major sources of lauric acid in the world are coconut oil and palm kernel oil (~50% of the oil is lauric acid). It is a natural material.
When separated from coconut oil or palm kernel oil, lauric acid is a white solid with a faint soapy odor. Lauric acid is responsible for many of the properties we associate with coconut oil. Separation is done through controlled chilling and filtering, without chemical change to the lauric acid.
The saponification chemical reaction is lauric acid with potassium hydroxide and sodium hydroxide. The reaction yields potassium laurate, sodium laurate and glycerin. This kind of reaction is the way soap has been made since ancient times.
Surfactant is a contraction of surface-acting agent. An emulsifier is a substance that helps an emulsion form, or keeps it from separating. Natural soap, as made for centuries, can serve as a surfactant, emulsifier or cleaning agent. It is not unnatural or synthetic because we use scary technical terms to describe its uses.
Looks like the action is starting up again for you.
