Nice looking razor. I also really like the modern GEMs including the Sabre.
Shane, you ask for comments. Mine is “Count me in!”. I’m fascinated by the concept and look forward to the different shave on levels 3 and 4.
An updated modern GEM razor. Great. The only razor type I use are GEM style. Vintage Ever Ready to be exact. I will say, this thread has piqued my curiosity about modern GEM’s.I imagine it’s a lot of fun having the ability to think up new ideas and having the equipment to make it a reality. I’ve always thought up ideas in other hobbies that I thought would be useful but I never had any machining equipment or access to any to make my ideas become a reality. I always loved thinking of new designs and you having the ability to test them out would be amazing.
When you say opens up versatility I wonder if ya mean in levels of aggression…. Or blade choices as in the Sabre may be able to accept a different platform of blades. I doubt that’s the case but I bet with a couple design tweaks it could be done. I probably wouldn’t do that if it sacrificed anything but it would be interesting.
I like the Personna blades but I’d love to see some more companies start producing coated blades to have a couple more options that are worthwhile. There are so many DE blade choices but so few when it comes to certain SE varieties.
Wow, what an awesome design. How is shaving under the nose? I guess not as good as a vector but must be pretty good, right?
I must say the new design idea is a great concept and I like that it could produce 4 levels at a reduced price. But if the price is close to $300 it probably won't be a purchase for me unless the reviews are absolutely great. I am probably more frugal then most on the forum so I have no doubts you will sell plenty to make it worthwhile and I hope it turns out to be a great razor.
As for looks, I am probably in the minority but I actually prefer the more squared look of the original design. Plus I like the extra weight of the original. Hopefully there will be some people offloading their original Sabres over the next year as they purchase this one so I can grab an OG level 2 when funds permit it.
One thing I would really love to see is you guys (and other razor companies) offering razors without handles for a reduced price. I know a lot of the cost of the razor is for the handle and I have a whole box of them I never use. I don't own a BlackBird yet and I think I might really like that handle design so I'd likely still buy it with the handle but with most razors the handle is just extra cost that I'll never use. I'm sure 95% of people would still purchase the handle but I'd say you'd also gain a few sales from people like me who only need the head.
When I first seen the design I had some concerns in my head but you addressed them in the video. Overall, great job!
As for looks, I am probably in the minority but I actually prefer the more squared look of the original design. Plus I like the extra weight of the original.
+1
Although the AD Vestige is an excellent modern design, I prefer the shaves I get with the Sabre and Wolfman and think the sheer weight of these razors actually is a benefit.
Shane did you consider releasing more baseplates for the original Sabre or was a revamp always the plan?
I'm sure it will be a great option for those who enjoy adjustables but if I'm honest: once I zero in on a baseplate for any razor I tend to stick to that plate. Unless both open comb and solid bar options are available.
Another great work from Blackland. In fact, Blackland and Tatara is the only 2 modern makers that I think are really into making sth different (Oh! Leaf Twig was awesome, too.)Sabre needed a redesign. Honestly I hate looking at it because the original is some amateur modeling that I'm not particularly proud of. I also think it needs to keep up with the times and adapt to the market.
As for releasing more base plates, we HATE making multiple base plates. It sucks at every level. It's expensive to produce, then we have to sit with odd numbers of random base plates that don't sell as well so it makes inventory management a nightmare. Then it sucks for the customer because they never know which level works for them and it's more expensive to buy multiple base plates. Even just a Sabre with one extra base plate is more expensive than the new Sabre with four levels will be. It's particularly tough for international customers who can't easily return items. We'd much rather make one item, stock one item, and sell one item that has more functionality. It's a win for the customer and a win for us.
Regarding adjustables, zeroing in on one setting is great. But that only works if you're easily able to try multiple. New Sabre makes that easy. It would cost you around $460 to get a Sabre with three additional base plates for all four levels. The Sabre won't come anywhere remotely close to that.
I prefer the WR3 over the Vestige solely on the weight and heft of the WR3. There is a point when a razor becomes too light and the Vestige to me is at that point.This has me leaning more towards the WR3 over the Vestige. The price for head only is just a few bucks more then a Vestige head and I think I’d like the additional weight.
I’ll see how I like my Shield first but at the moment the WR3 or maybe new Sabre will be my follow up. It looks like a .60 blade gap on the WR3 would probably be about right for me but imagine anywhere from .50-.70 would work. I’ve never seen any mention of Wolfman selling additional baseplates so assume he doesn’t offer the plate without cap?
Open comb Sabre... now you've done it!!! I want one! @Blackland Razors sign me up for a brass open comb Sabre 2.0+1
Although the AD Vestige is an excellent modern design, I prefer the shaves I get with the Sabre and Wolfman and think the sheer weight of these razors actually is a benefit.
Shane did you consider releasing more baseplates for the original Sabre or was a revamp always the plan?
I'm sure it will be a great option for those who enjoy adjustables but if I'm honest: once I zero in on a baseplate for any razor I tend to stick to that plate. Unless both open comb and solid bar options are available.
If you remove the safety bar entirely it is precisely the most open of combsOpen comb Sabre... now you've done it!!! I want one! @Blackland Razors sign me up for a brass open comb Sabre 2.0
Ha! I initially thought the little circular magnet was a "0" and I thought, dang, Blackland went and DID IT! SEvette!If you remove the safety bar entirely it is precisely the most open of combs
Seriously?Sabre needed a redesign. Honestly I hate looking at it because the original is some amateur modeling that I'm not particularly proud of. I also think it needs to keep up with the times and adapt to the market.