Rooney 3/1...55 mm or 50 mm loft

[kevo]

Unless I'm reading it wrong (which is highly possible) classicshaving (http://www.classicshaving.com/catalog/item/2053630/2184242.htm) has the Rooney 3/1 listed as having a 55 mm loft for a total height of 105 mm while vintage blades (http://www.vintagebladesllc.com/vshop/xcart/home.php?cat=156) has it listed with a 50 mm loft for a total height of 100 mm. I'm a missing something here, which one is it?

Thanks in advance

 

[jkh]

No, you are correct. The VB Rooney #3/1 lofts are 5mm shorter.

 

[AFG]

They are supposed to be the same. Classic Shaving has not updated their website to reflect the correct lofts.

 

[alabamalawyer]

If you're looking for a 3/1 with a shorter loft check out this thread on some new brushes Vintageblades just got in stock.

 

[LawLess]

Remember, the 50mm is the average lofts of the Rooneys. My 3/1 I just got from Jim came with a 45mm loft and it is fantastic!

 

[jkh]

They are supposed to be the same. Classic Shaving has not updated their website to reflect the correct lofts.

Really?

 

[Stubblefield]

Really?

Yes. Rooney started speccing their brushes with shorter lofts a while back. Classic may have old stock tho.

 

[kevo]

Thanks very much for the clarification

 

[ctakim]

I was told that classic shaving had requested their Rooney 3/1 in the longer loft length and vintage blades preferred a more trim length by request from the manufacturer. This led me to buy mine from classing shaving as I wanted the longer bristle length. If previous threads are correct, this is not a newer versus older model issue.

I got my Rooney around Christmas time last year.

 

[Darjeeling Express]

I heard, that Jim was stocking the shorter loft, Rooney began producing this as their standard, and that's what Classic is carrying now. This should start the rumor mill going. But seriously, I think I got this from Jim's interview with B&B. Look in the shop forum.


"B&B: There have been a few posts on B&B mentioning that the Rooney's you carry have modified loft dimensions. Can you clarify this?

Vintage Blades: Early on, when I was fortunate to have been given the Rooney line, I felt that the loft on the Size 2 (Medium) and the Size 3 (Large) brushes were too tall for the US market. I discussed this with Lee Sabini, the owner of Rooney, and he did agree to alter the loft on the brushes that he made for me. However, shortly thereafter, the decision was made by Lee to standardize production and make all Rooney brushes to these new loft specifications.

The confusion arose from two things. One was reports on the forums of early conversations that I had with customers concerning my “special brushes” from Rooney. (I probably made a bit too much of it.) The second was due to the fact that I had updated my site immediately to reflect the new brush specifications that Rooney was using to make the brushes.

Recently I posted in jest how the Rooney brushes that Classic Shaving receives are the same as those I receive except that their brushes “lean slightly to the left and mine lean slightly to the right”. I’m not sure that my so-called humor translates well into this medium."

 

[ctakim]

Thanks Darjeeling! So the answer is that everyone was correct. The shorter loft was originally a special request for Vintage Blades, but it has been adopted as the standard length for all brushes now.

Thanks for clarifying the mystery!