Manufacturers Refusing to Sell Guns to NYPD

[ackvil]

Just came across this article that some gun manufacturers are refusing to sell sell guns, particularly assault rifles, to the NYPD because of the stingent laws passed in NY.

Originally six manufacturers refused to sell guns to NY - but supposedly the number has increased to 44 and some states in addition to NY have been added to the list.

 

[gooser]

very interesting ... id like to read the article if you have a link please .

 

[ackvil]

very interesting ... id like to read the article if you have a link please .

Just click on the words "this article" in my post.

 

[oakeshott]

Interesting article. Iirc, it's not only a matter of principle, but many illegal guns are obtained through police departments. There may be some other reason they're refusing to sell to the NYPD; some guidance from their legal counsel.

 

[ackvil]

It seems that some of the manufacturers are taking the position that they manufacuter is not legal for a private citizen to own then they won't sell that product to a law enforcement agency in that state.

See http://www.policymic.com/articles/26662/new-york-gun-ban-gunmakers-refuse-to-sell-to-state-employees

 

[Mick]

It is not just NY and it is not just that single manufacturer

http://m.usatoday.com/article/news/1975697

I don't agree with stopping sales to law enforcement.

 

[73mountaineer]

Reading the comments at the bottom of these articles is highly enlightening and entertaining as well. Can't really get into it without getting political in this thread, but suffice to say there are some very interesting contradictions involved.

 

[ricardo9505]

to quote Mr. Serbu: "we have a policy of selling to state law enforcement agencies only what is allowed to be sold to private citizens in that state" So the issue is the manufacturer's policy. Here in NYC NYPD shot a man 5 times in Times Sq. (surrounded by hundreds of pedestrians and tourists) for eating an apple that they claimed was a grenade. NOW, do you really want NYPD having .50 cal rifles? maybe special enforcement teams but food for thought.

 

[PFP_Dad]

I tried to write this about 5 different ways without getting too political. Suffice to say I agree with it, find it unfortunate and appreciate you sharing the article.

 

[CyberJCM]

I was told 2 days ago that Glock totally cut distribution in the US. I don't know why, and I'll try and find a story. But that is a crazy move, and it's going to have a big impact I think.

 

[KW Driver]

I tried to write this about 5 different ways without getting too political. Suffice to say I agree with it, find it unfortunate and appreciate you sharing the article.

I'll just tag on a x2 and leave it at that. I've had a great deal of respect for several of those companies for years.

 

[Doc226]

I believe Ronnie Barret was the original one that did this. He refuses to supply parts, fix or sell to CA as they do not allow their citizens to own the 50 cal.

 

[Hayden]

I tried to write this about 5 different ways without getting too political. Suffice to say I agree with it, find it unfortunate and appreciate you sharing the article.

Couldn't of said it better.

 

[DevilDog0402]

I believe Ronnie Barret was the original one that did this. He refuses to supply parts, fix or sell to CA as they do not allow their citizens to own the 50 cal.

Correct.


I think it's great that Barrett and other companies are doing this.

 

[Neognosis]

The police not being permitted to own any weapons that are not available to the public.... what could POSSIBLY go wrong?

 

[LittleLebowski]

Not my blog! Bravo Company cancels contract with Milwaukee PD after chief's anti civilian owned modern sporting rifles statements.

http://pistol-training.com/archives/7763

 

[rajagra]

Just off the top of my head ... why would they expect manufacturers to produce items that can only legally be sold to a tiny market (police)?
Do they expect them to operate at a loss?
Or are the police willing to pay a huge price per unit so that profit can still be made?
Ethics aside, I don't think they thought this through realistically.

 

[dreadpirate]

I am wondering something else when I read this article; what's to stop ammo manufacturers from saying to the feds; "sorry, I am opting out of your 1.5 billion round ammo contract and instead selling my ammo to the general public"? It's not like they really need the government business (local or federal). These companies seem to think they have more to gain by supporting their customer base in the general public.

 

[oc_in_fw]

on edit: never mind

 

[PFP_Dad]

I am wondering something else when I read this article; what's to stop ammo manufacturers from saying to the feds; "sorry, I am opting out of your 1.5 billion round ammo contract and instead selling my ammo to the general public"? It's not like they really need the government business (local or federal). These companies seem to think they have more to gain by supporting their customer base in the general public.

I would hazard a guess that federal contracts account for at least half of ammunition used. I'm a fairly active shooter and must be for work but I've seen more fired rounds in one day enlisted than every day combined since I've been out. With weapons it isn't really the same.