Found another hone. Need help

[kcb5150]

I took an hd video just now. I find my cam is much more accurate about imaging appearance in video.

 

[kcb5150]

I'm going to send it to Bayamontate to play around with. I am uploading a video right now that really shows good detail. The thing literally feels smoother than greased teflon when it is wet.

 

[kcb5150]

From my start point photo to flat it took roughly 5 hours. Once a slurry kicked up I didn't find it hard to cut into, but the stone itself seems damn hard. Please bear in mind that my flat lapping surface did not have huge amounts of surface area so I couldn't be splashy with big figure 8 patterns so I am sure that added time.

 

[Doorsch]

Good idea with the video...as you used 220 grit this might also take time. For stones where a huge amount of material has to be removed i use 80 or 100...

 

[kcb5150]

The lapping brought out a great deal of additional details in the stone as far as the green goes. Showed the bottom as well as that was similar condition to what I had to cope with.

 

[Alum of Potash]

Does recall Doorsch's stone to my mind. Still would be nice to have some fixed, natural-light balanced pix of the stones, with and without water.

If anyone has some pix of vintage Yellow Lakes with green inclusions, that too would be appreciated.

 

[SliceOfLife]

I've owned about a dozen vintage Yellow lakes. Every one (including NOS) were Jet black or so dark as to appear jet black in all but the brightest light.

That looks like a "Brown thuri"/"Vos" to me in the pics, though less so in the video, can't really think of anything it looks more like.

 

[Alum of Potash]

The two supposed vosgiennes I've come across are not so spread out in the green surface area relative to the backside here. Rather, they are a uniform brown/purple with extremely localized and rare pinpoint turquoise green inclusions. Soft to lap, but extremely resistant to oil absorption.

As far as I can tell, nobody has any documented evidence accompanying a supposed Vosgian stone; so any such conjecture remains just that. Not discounting this one or a raisin pie as possibilities by any means, just wanting to recall that there still seems to be no bona fide Vosgian archetype to go by. Further information concerning the provenance of the lot as mentioned here at the start might help.

Pix of vintage Yellow Lakes with green inclusions would also be appreciated as well by way of comparison/contrast.

 

[Doorsch]

This is getting a cool thread...

Wet Shots:
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7225/13662218564_26549a23d4_c_d.jpg

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3732/13661862835_750d8748ee_c_d.jpg

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3794/13661876183_65858ba96e_c_d.jpg

 

[SliceOfLife]

Purdy. I want one.

 

[Doorsch]

Dry shots:
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7135/13661909025_ab499478c2_c_d.jpg

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7225/13661921443_eb7d039c9c_c_d.jpg

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7241/13661886675_b4ab39654e_c_d.jpg

 

[kcb5150]

 

[kcb5150]

 

[kcb5150]

All of these are dry apart form the one where it is clearly wet (4th down)

 

[Alum of Potash]

Thanks a lot guys. Gives me another idea of what to look for with the supposed vosgiennes. Doorsch's seems redder on my screen, while kcb's are closer to the brown-purple I'm used to seeing, with similar green inclusions in both stones. And a lot more of them in both cases. Haven't seen the small black spots on kcb's stone before.

Still would be nice to see a Yellow Lake with green inclusions.

 

[Gamma]

Still would be nice to see a Yellow Lake with green inclusions.

Neil Miller once posted pix showing this - If I remember, he also posted pix of local pieces of other slates that had green inclusions.

 

[Alum of Potash]

Neil Miller once posted pix showing this - If I remember, he also posted pix of local pieces of other slates that had green inclusions.

Thanks. I'll check up on this.

 

[Gamma]

Search Google for llyn melynllyn Green and a few pix will pop up but not the ones I remember Neil posting.

If he's better - maybe he's answering emails again and could shed light.

 

[Doorsch]

I collected some futher threads here to relink....These were the only ones i found with green spots...more oval ones...

http://straightrazorplace.com/hones/79625-my-new-llyn-melynllyn-hone.html

And this on the bay:
http://bit.ly/1kfwX8y

And this like Rainbow colour:
http://m.ebay.com.au/itm/171285565202

But these look totally different im my thinking...



And this one on SRP where we had the same discussion if this stone is a Vosges or a purple Yellow Lake:

ID This Hone for me please
http://straightrazorplace.com/showthread.php?t=109003

Smal yellow Lake
http://straightrazorplace.com/hones/72300-small-yellow-lake-stone.html

I would tend more to say that both of these are Vosges = "Brown Thuringian"(KCBs and the one i posted) i find that these patterns look quite comparable...as earlier mentioned the difference for a Vosges compared to a Purple Yellow lake is in my thinking...

1) a hard not easily to lap stone
2) fast cutting power

 

[Doorsch]

And here was the thread were Neil Miller showed some examples of a Door Sign with these kind of Slate with green inclusions, check Page 4...

http://straightrazorplace.com/hones/77212-help-id-natural-hone.html

Did you mean this Gamma ?