and here I was thinking you had a tutorial on the swap/mod. my lazy self has the disappoint...
I am looking to get my first fountain pen, too.An entry level Pelikan will IMO outperform pens costing many times more. A first pen that does not provide the smooth flowing magic that is possible will be a hard way to begin.
The NOS (or nice used) Sheaffer route is promising. I had a Sheaffer desk set back in my banking lawyer life, and it wrote like a dream. So does my daughter's Parker Sonnet.
So in other words, don’t overthink it?I am a left handed writer. Always had problems with fountain pens. The year I was drafted, in the military, I decided I wanted to try writing with a fountain pen. I had found a cheap piston filler pen, maybe Ero, and started my trip. The Captain of my Company wans't very pleased to read my reports in violet, green, purple and he sent calling for me when he didn't approve
I had that pen for years. Unfortunately I stupidily binned it for no apparent reason years ago when the fp knack had got a hold of me. I used, rarely, my great grandfather's Waterman 58 and this how I got into vintage pens. At the time I wans't aware of cheap Chinese pens, end of the 80s. I only knew of Pelikan, Parker of which I had a 25, Waterman, Sheaffer's. Anyway the Ero pen was an experiment and I did manage to master it. So IMO every beginner has his 'go to' pen to start with. May it be by brand, by nib size, by cost. 100s forum members have started differently. When I started, 80s, there still were proper B&M shops where you could go and find the right pen for you, now all you have are video blogs, forums and word of mouth. You may want one pen, or two or three to start off? Fine. But never say that one will suffice, this is never going to happen
I am not familiar with the Jazz, but I have an older Pelikan with a steel nib that writes like a dream, no discernible difference in the way it writes compared to my M400 with the fancier nib.I am looking to get my first fountain pen, too.
The Pelikan Jazz looks nice, for around $20. The Koweco Sport is about the same amount, but you can swap nibs. The Pelikan only comes in a medium, which is probably what I want anyway.
So is the Pelican Jazz the way to go? I wouldn’t mind going up to $50 or so but I read that you need to go well into 3 digits to really see a difference.
Re: the Jazz, research says that the Pelikan converter will fit, that it will not fit, that it will take 2 short carts, that there is only room for one cart, and that it will take a large cart. Needless to say, I am confused.
Also, in general, is there an advantage to using short carts? My guess is that if you do not use the pen enough, the ink will dry up, so using short carts would waste less ink. Am I correct?
Also, I am looking for a classic look, so both the Pelikan Jazz in black and the Koweco Sport in black seem to fit the bill based on my very limited research.
Thanks. I order from Ali all the time and usually get things in about 3 weeks.For those getting started, and who don't want to make a big monetary commitment, some of the Jinhao pens out of China are with considering. Over the past while, I've bought:
- Jinhao 992, transparent brown, fine nib. Cost less than $2 delivered from AliExpress. Comes witha converter. Surprisingly good nib. Is a great nib no matter the price. Only things I don't like: the converter takes in the pen; and the pen is a bit make fried my taste.
- Jinhao 86, pink, give nib. Also around $2, also excellent nib. What I don't like: the color (the pictures showed an orange pen, but it's definitely pink); and it's a screw cap, and i don't like the feel of the threads when writing.
- Jinhao 51a, blue, extra fine nib. Again, around $2. Incredible pen and nib. If you don't like hooded nibs, look fora fine or wider nib. I love my Parker 21s, but the nib on the Jinhao 51a is nicer.
The only downside to ordering from AliExpress is that you'll wait a month or two to have the pen delivered. Goulet Pens has the 51a in stock for $4. May be able to find it elsewhere.
I am where I was 8 years ago with DE razors, so I could not tell a good nib from a bad one right now.I am not familiar with the Jazz, but I have an older Pelikan with a steel nib that writes like a dream, no discernible difference in the way it writes compared to my M400 with the fancier nib.
The Lamy Safari looks like a great deal with the converter and 5 spare carts. Seems too good to be true. I wonder about the Amazon reviews, though. Some say it's fake, some say the converter was not included. I'm never sure if they are just reviewing the product and it applies to all vendors, or if the reviews are vendor specific.
I'd either save for a Souveran M200 or look on places like eBay for something classic at a good price.I am where I was 8 years ago with DE razors, so I could not tell a good nib from a bad one right now.
I will only be keeping this at home so portability/compactness is not a concern. I also want it to look classy and not like it belongs in the pencil case of a first grader.
So is there another Pelikan that you can recommend that won’t break my budget?
I have read this thread, so that’s why I set my budget around $50 to avoid the “dead” spot.
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And I would like to get a new one currently in production. Not neccessarily a Pelikan but I was drawn to that one based on your comment how an entry level one will outperform other brands in that price range and higher.
Also, forgot to say that technically this will not be my first FP. I recently found among my late father’s belongings an old Japanese “Jumbo Pen” but have never tried it. I read some bad things about it regarding the nib as well as being prone to leaks. It looks to be in good shape with no cracks, though.
Thanks.I'd either save for a Souveran M200 or look on places like eBay for something classic at a good price.
Thanks. I assure you that nobody even wants to read what I write now, let alone 10, 20, or 30 years from now.The Lamy Safari is a fine starter. If you want a piston filler, a TWSBI would be the way to go (they use the same nibs as the Lamy).
I wouldn't worry about ink fading, I have notes, written on recycled paper in Parker Turquoise that are still legible from the mid-1980s. If you are really determined to maintain archival quality, there is a wide range of permanent inks, otherwise blue, blue-black and black will survive for decades (assuming no water or light exposure).