As with most forms in general they peter out after a while then a new group will come in and the cycle repeats. This is due in part on several factors. There really is only so much that can be said about any given topic. After a while its just regurgitating the same stuff over and over again. So people drop out. It’s also evident in how some people post in these type of forums some of their writings are all froofroo of each step what ever they are writing about just to fill in space. Other posts in forums just get boring and drop off. Eventually people just get bored and move on to live in reality. I check in from time to time but for the most part it’s shaving not a lot of technical stuff to it. It’s fun to see others opinions and what might be better after one settles in most is mundane.
B&B Membership Does Change Over Time, Doesn't It?
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Politely sir, I think you assume too much of my honest inquiry. Angst? Not at all. Honest ignorance? Definitely a possibility.
But it’s not unrealistic to just not know or understand how this site or the internet works is it?
If this was a matter of guilty conscience or sheer stubborn will, which I definitely have been guilty of in my lifetime. But haven’t we all been guilty of this on occasion? As I think it comes as a package deal with the rest of our human nature?
Maybe it’s just simply my turn? I dunno?
I do know, I can definitely rule out guilty conscience, because I know myself way much better than you do and trust me, my guilty conscience would have left it strictly in PM’s.
One day, I hope to grow up and be just like you.
This sounds like a very reasonable and helpful way in seeing it. Thank you sir.
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I didn't mean that as any kind of attack on anyone by the way, just that we get so many complaints about ads (which we cannot do a darned thing about) despite people being told numerous times that they can either get an ad blocker or become a contributor.Well sir, While I can see gaining your sympathy would be a good thing right along with doing my part in financially supporting this great forum. Hence my post and questions.
SO, I really don't understand why some keep on keeping on, and keep on complaining (some much more than others of course) without taking any steps to resolving the issue they complain about.
There's absolutely nothing we can do. Those folks need to do something - because the complaining does nothing to resolve their problem.
If they spent the time they use to complain towards searching for a decent ad blocker, we'd all be happier.
I can agree and see some of your points. But I have been here a long time. And it’s definitely the relationships, friendships and camaraderie that makes being a contributor more than worth it.
I understand perfectly sir. I like and respect you too much, to ever think about any attack….
My pleasure. I tend to be very straight to the point, and often that is interpreted as curt or cruel, when no such emotion is behind my manner. My apologies if I come across that way.
It's a one and done deal. Lifetime Contributor. Not cheap by any means, but I have received SO MUCH from this forum, I felt I needed to do it!
No apologies necessary!
I’m afraid we are very much alike my friend. Which makes me sad; as I don’t want to look as mean as you do….
I think you convince me to become a Christian!
-King Agrippa.
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And you sir, your avatar drives me crazyI’m afraid we are very much alike my friend. Which makes me sad; as I don’t want to look as mean as you do….
I think you convince me to become a Christian!
-King Agrippa.
, looking at it brings the song from Oklahoma continually going through my head.A blessed Easter to all.
And you sir, your avatar drives me crazy
A blessed Easter to all.
I try, I try.
And a blessed Easter to you and yours my brother.
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Salty_Shaver says:
"...for the most part it’s shaving not a lot of technical stuff to it....after one settles in most is mundane."
Could be true.
On the other hand, as a collector of vintage DE safety razors, I'm always interested to see old razors that I haven't seen before, particularly non-Gillettes. They're usually presented by a buyer who's thrilled with their "new score", particularly if they found it "in the wild" and grabbed it cheap! These vintage razors just keep on coming in! Although I must say that the pace of "new old ones" that I haven't see before has definitely slowed down. I take this as a sign of my "increased knowledge on the subject"...
"...for the most part it’s shaving not a lot of technical stuff to it....after one settles in most is mundane."
Could be true.
On the other hand, as a collector of vintage DE safety razors, I'm always interested to see old razors that I haven't seen before, particularly non-Gillettes. They're usually presented by a buyer who's thrilled with their "new score", particularly if they found it "in the wild" and grabbed it cheap! These vintage razors just keep on coming in! Although I must say that the pace of "new old ones" that I haven't see before has definitely slowed down. I take this as a sign of my "increased knowledge on the subject"...
You know I joined this place in 2015, LOVED it then somewhere over time i setlled with my setup and no longer found myself on here daily like i once was and sadly forgot about it. Then recently came across something that reminded me to check back in and here I am again lol
I’ve come here for about 17 years.
In the beginning, I soaked up information like a sponge, but soon I learned to be more selective.
It’s the Internet after all, where people are free to post all sorts of rubbish, and it pays to apply the Pareto Principle (a.k.a. 80/20 rule)* before making up one’s mind.
Shortly after the COVID pandemic, I noticed that the three shaving forums that I visit regularly had grown much quieter. Two of them more noticeably so than this one.
It could be that people found that they had spent too much time on forums during the pandemic and lost interest, or that after lapping up all useful information they had reached a point where they found less and less to learn and adopt.
I say this because I am convinced that a sizeable number of people come to shaving forums just to get started, develop their technique, and then move on.
B.
* The Pareto Principle (a.k.a. 80/20 Rule)
States that “80% of consequences come from 20% of causes”,
but it has many more uses like:
- 80% of the excellent ideas come from 20% of the posters.
- 80% of the nonsense comes from 20% of the posters.
- 80% just repeat and only 20% have innovative ideas.
- 80% of the pictures are posted for the sake of posting, 20% of the pictures add something to the subject.
**or one of my favourites:
- 80% of the reviews are useful, 20% (the 10 best and 10 worst percent) should be ignored.
(The latter one is particularly useful when making up one’s mind if one should try something new, or not.)
Feel free to create your own, like: 80% of what Brutus writes is hare-brained, only 20% makes any sense.
** also known as “gratuitous waste of bandwidth”
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Welcome back! I just recently came back myself.
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Brutus said: "80% of what Brutus writes is hare-brained"...
Well, it is Easter...
Well, it is Easter...
Check your adblocker. I found that mine updated in the background and stopped working until I opened the settings and ok’d the list of changes. A dumb design decision.
I think you convince me to become a Christian!
-King Agrippa.
Be sure to check out the Contributor only forum
And the Contributor only BST
As a Contributor you also have access to the Brown Leaf Stock Exchange where folks trade and PIF tobacco products such as cigars and pipe tobacco.
I have no problems with ads that are unobtrusive. I would not use adblocker if the ads were just hyperlinks like in the old Google days, or neatly fit between posts and didn't hog memory.
I have a huge problem with ads that actively block content and slow down browsing to a halt. I will actually go out of my way to avoid the product they advertise, if I remember it later.
As to the membership fee - once it becomes mandatory, it's no longer a voluntary show of support, it's a subscription. And as any subscription, it needs to present a value proposition, which in my subjective view requires more than just allowing users to access other users' posts.
Kind of felt the same way at first, but...
There are SO MANY non-shaving related areas here that are extremely active that no matter what your interests are, there are sure to be discussions about something that interests you. I found my way into many other lifestyle areas once my shave was settled. I post most often in Non-Shaving related areas now.
There are specific benefits to being a Contributor, besides ad removal. Contributors have access to The Contributor forum, and another Contributor BST that doesn't have the posting limits of the regular BST, they also have access to the stock exchange in the Brown Leaf where tobacco is traded and PIF'd. There is Contributor only swag available from time to time.
Aside from that, questions, discussions and decisions on site policy is rolled out in the Contributor forum, and Contributors have a much stronger position on policy and site changes/additions.
Whether those items are sufficient to "make it worth it" is up to each individual, and it's not wildly advertised as a means to get people roped in to contributing. The perks are a "Thank you" for becoming a Contributor, not an incentive to entice someone.
