Thanks Luc for these updates! I concur with you Erasmic stick (red box) isn`t the best and initially I was calling it the worst soap ever. However I didn`t want to be whipped by it so I played around with it as discussed with you earlier and like you have gotten it to work. I like it in that the lather is thin so my razor doesn`t clog up with lather but there is enough slickness and cushion. Anyways initially I`ve even emailed Erasmic and mentioned how unhappy I was with their stick and their product manager Mr.Richards said I was an isolated case. Isolated case?? I do like the scent of this Erasmic stick. Maybe give their Erasmic puck (as a stick) a try when you get a chance?