Your help needed - razor head weight compendium

[Samjax]

What I'm hoping to collect here is the empty head weights of the various DE razor heads that are out there. With the ongoing interest in after-market handles - it seems logical that we would have a compendium of actual razor head weights that may help others out there to better match various handles with various heads to achieve what they may be looking for in regards to balance, pressure needed to shave comfortably, ease of use, etc...

In any event, please add whatever you have - cut and paste this as needed and continue the thread using an alphabetical order.

I am weighing mine with a Cuisinart digital scale - no blade - no handle - head only.

Here's what I have on hand.

Head weights – no blade – no handle:

Edwin Jagger DE89: 30 grams
Fatip Piccolo: 29 grams
Feather AS-D1: 29 grams
Gillette New OC Long Tooth: 32 grams
Gillette Tech Triangle Slot: 25 grams
iKon OSS: 28 grams
iKon S3S: 63 grams
Muhle R41 Grande: 26 grams
New York Shaving Mariner: 29 grams
Tradere OC: 49 grams
Weber DLC: 32 grams

 

[Triad]

Great idea this will be interesting!! I need to get some scales
Ikons S3S 63 grams wow

 

[TonyJ]

Muhle R41 29g and another one 27g
Muhle R89 29g
Merkur 23C 29g
Fatip 29g
Parker 3 piece (45/48/91R) 29g
merkur 25c 24g

Almost all stick to the 29g's. Funny coincidence.

 

[Samjax]

Tony - you want to check that Muhle R41 again? I just re-weighed mine and it's 26 grams. It's a 2012 model (which is the same as the 2011). Is yours a 2011 or newer? Or the older 2010 design?

 

[alex2363]

Great idea, it will guide and help many users.

 

[Samjax]

Give us some weights Alex...you must have enough in your collection to finish this whole thing up in one post!

 

[TonyJ]

Tony - you want to check that Muhle R41 again? I just re-weighed mine and it's 26 grams. It's a 2012 model (which is the same as the 2011). Is yours a 2011 or newer? Or the older 2010 design?

I re-weighted mine, It was still 29g and I have another too (from grande) and it was 27 g. I added those on my first post.
Edit: forgot to mention that mine is late model ie. 2011.

 

[brad1201]

I re-weighted mine, It was still 29g and I have another too (from grande) and it was 27 g. I added those on my first post.

This is interesting. Probably has to do with engineering tolerances,with anything machine manufactured, theres always a target and max and min tolerances for quality control purposes. I would suggest making a range of weights for each razor to make it more accurate maybe "Muhle R41 26g-29g" or you could just take the average of all the recorded weights of each razor. Could also just be a slight difference in the scales. Too many people using too many different scales. either way its gonna be hard to get an exact number without asking the manufacturer for their target weights.

Great Idea though! I like head heavy razors so this'll be a great resource!

 

[MacDaddy]

Here are a few that I had handy this morning:

• Gillette Old Type Pocket Edition, silver (1909): 21g
• Gillette Old Type Brownie, nickel (post-patent): 21g
• Gillette New Improved Tuckaway, silver (1927): 32g
• Gillette NEW DeLuxe Red & Black, gold (post merger): 37g
• Gillette Tech, gold (non-triangular, NDC): 26g
• Probak, gold: 18g

 

[Samjax]

Updated:

Head weights – no blade – no handle:


Edwin Jagger DE89: 30 grams
Fatip Piccolo: 29 grams
Feather AS-D1: 29 grams
Gillette New Improved Tuckaway, silver (1927): 32g
Gillette NEW DeLuxe Red & Black, gold (post merger): 37g
Gillette New OC Long Tooth: 32 grams
Gillette Old Type Pocket Edition, silver (1909): 21g
Gillette Old Type Brownie, nickel (post-patent): 21g
Gillette Tech, gold (non-triangular, NDC): 26g
Gillette Tech Triangle Slot: 25 grams
iKon OSS: 28 grams
iKon S3S: 63 grams
Merkur 23C 29g
Merkur 25c 24g
Muhle R41: 26, 27 and 29 grams (3 different heads)
Muhle R89 29g
New York Shaving Mariner: 29 grams
Parker 3 piece (45/48/91R) 29g
Probak gold: 18g
Tradere OC: 49 grams
Weber DLC: 32 grams

 

[TonyJ]

......Could also just be a slight difference in the scales. Too many people using too many different scales......

And all scales have their own tolerances. When working in a chemical fatory as a research assistant we calibrated scales once a month. Home usage scales have bigger differencies and tolerances. Small and light objects like razor heads accuracy levels could vary significantly.
Great thead though.

 

[Samjax]

Agreed on the difference in scales...but unlikely we're going to get many readings with the high dollar stuff anytime soon.

I'm using this: http://www.amazon.com/Cuisinart-KS-55-Weight-Digital-Kitchen/dp/B001X5IIQY

But I'm guessing this one is better: http://www.zieis.com/200g-Capacity-...tion-Extreme-Accuracy-to-001mg-P1171C227.aspx

Of course for the price of the Zieis...I could buy a whole lot of shaving gear.

 

[TonyJ]

Hahaha. Definitely one could get more respect if buying zieis to weight a couple of his razor heads.

 

[mblakele]

For most razors I think variation of more than a half gram is probably due to scale calibration, not manufacturing. My gram scale is uncalibrated, but here are some numbers for comparison. Unless stated all Gillettes are USA.

Gillette ca. 1930 Tuckaway-style NEW Deluxe 34.7-g
Gillette ca. 1930 Tuckaway-style Lady NEW Deluxe 34.7-g
Gillette ca. 1935 red-black set NEW Deluxe 35.6-g (compare to Porter's 37-g)
Gillette ca. 1935 NEW Deluxe 35.8-g (compare to Porter's 37-g)
Gillette long-comb NEW Canada patents pending 29.9-g
Gillette short-comb NEW patents 32.1-g
Gillette long-comb NEW UK no patents 27-g
Gillette Tech P-2 20.5-g
Merkur 45 8.1-g
Mühle R89 29.8-g
Mühle R41tc 26.7-g
Mühle "R99" Fa tip 29.5-g
Probak (zinc? and chrome?) 18.4-g
Stahly registered US patent office 29.2-g

Let me know if you want help getting this data into a wiki page.

 

[Samjax]

Updated 8/10/12

Head weights only - no handle - no blade

Edwin Jagger DE89: 30 grams
Fatip Piccolo: 29 grams
Feather AS-D1: 29 grams
Gillette ca. 1930 Tuckaway-style NEW Deluxe 34.7-g
Gillette ca. 1930 Tuckaway-style Lady NEW Deluxe 34.7-g
Gillette ca. 1935 red-black set NEW Deluxe 35.6-g (compare to Porter's 37-g)
Gillette ca. 1935 NEW Deluxe 35.8-g (compare to Porter's 37-g)
Gillette long-comb NEW Canada patents pending 29.9-g
Gillette New Improved Tuckaway, silver (1927): 32g
Gillette NEW DeLuxe Red & Black, gold (post merger): 37g
Gillette NEW OC long-comb: 32 grams
Gillette NEW short-comb patents 32.1-g
Gillette NEW long-comb UK no patents 27-g
Gillette Old Type Pocket Edition, silver (1909): 21g
Gillette Old Type Brownie, nickel (post-patent): 21g
Gillette Tech, gold (non-triangular, NDC): 26g
Gillette Tech P-2 20.5 grams
Gillette Tech Triangle Slot: 25 grams
iKon OSS: 28 grams
iKon S3S: 63 grams
Merkur 23C 29g
Merkur 25c 24g
Merkur 45 8.1 grams
Muhle R41: 26, 26.7, 27 and 29 grams (4 different heads)
Muhle R89 29g to 29.8 grams
Mühle R99 Fa tip 29.5 grams
New York Shaving Mariner: 29 grams
Parker 3 piece (45/48/91R) 29 grams
Parker (R-Series: 65/71/91/94/98) 32 grams
Probak (zinc? and chrome?) 18.4 grams
Probak gold: 18g
Stahly registered US patent office 29.2 grams
Tradere OC: 49 grams
Weber DLC: 32 grams

 

[Samjax]

We now have a Wiki page regarding head weights. Thank you B&B, Mike & Jim!

http://wiki.badgerandblade.com/Double-Edged_Safety_Razors_Ranked_by_Head_Weight

 

[alex2363]

We now have a Wiki page regarding head weights. Thank you B&B, Mike & Jim!

http://wiki.badgerandblade.com/Double-Edged_Safety_Razors_Ranked_by_Head_Weight

Yes, Mike KCackler and Jim are awesome, they are very smart and will give you the best help regarding your Wiki page. I know I could have never gotten my Wiki pages up with out their help.