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Who uses a pre-shave before face lathering with a stick?

Since I started face lathering with a shaving stick, my Proraso Pre/Post hasn't been getting much love. Anyone incorporate a pre-shave into their routine when using sticks?
 
I do, but then I don't rub the shave stick over my face. I pick up the soap from the end of the stick with my brush and then lather is on my face.
 
I use the Castle Forbes Pre-Shave regardless of whether I'm using a shave stick directly, face lathering from a puck or bowl lathering.
 
I am a true believer in pre-shave oil. I make my own following a recipe I found in a post to this board. I find it useful regardless of whether I''m using a soap puck, stick or cream.
 
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