What's Wrong With This Injector?

[squirrel_nut_zipper]

Can anybody see anything that does not look right with how the blade is loaded? This is an adjustable set at 8, and it doesn't cut anything. I've loaded and reloaded the blade about 10 times, but it just doesn't work. Can anybody spot a defect here?

 

[mark_mw]

Tried a razor just like yours....a waste of time, left stubble in its wake. The older bakelite handle Schicks can deliver but I keep my cased adjustable as a shave-vestment.

 

[garyg]

The gap looks ok - what blades are you using? Perhaps the blade edge got dragged a bit while undergoing 10 cycles of the in/out?

 

[cactusbrush]

Looks like part of the blade guard is bent and the blade has no exposure. The top part of the blade holder that comes down and makes a "j" should be lined up with the bottom part of the holder; it looks like the bottom part is sitting inside the loop. I can't imagine how it could be repaired. Maybe it was dropped sometime and pushed the bottom part of the holder so hard it separated from the rest of the mechanism.

 

[squirrel_nut_zipper]

The gap looks ok - what blades are you using? Perhaps the blade edge got dragged a bit while undergoing 10 cycles of the in/out?

These are the current production Chinese Schick blades. I was watching when I loaded, and the blade was definitely not rubbing against the pins. It won't even cut if I apply some pressure. I've run into this situation with the older model Injectors, but when I removed the blade and reloaded it, it would seat correctly -- hence the reason for all the reloading.

 

[squirrel_nut_zipper]

Looks like part of the blade guard is bent and the blade has no exposure. The top part of the blade holder that comes down and makes a "j" should be lined up with the bottom part of the holder; it looks like the bottom part is sitting inside the loop. I can't imagine how it could be repaired. Maybe it was dropped sometime and pushed the bottom part of the holder so hard it separated from the rest of the mechanism.

It took me a while to figure out what you were talking about, but I think you've nailed it. Here it is next to a properly working old Bakelite model, and you can see how out of whack it is in comparison. The second picture showing the side where the key is inserted appears to be okay.

 

[kadett]

I have an M-type adjustable. I don't see anything wrong with your pictures apart from the last ones you posted with the J-piece that is bent. One question I have is when you rotate the adjustment wheel can you see the bar move up and down like normal?

 

[squirrel_nut_zipper]

One question I have is when you rotate the adjustment wheel can you see the bar move up and down like normal?

Yes, the guard bar does move.

 

[kadett]

Well then, the only anomaly comparing your M-type with mine is that bent 'j' piece. So logically there must be some kind of interaction from that which has bent the shaving angle enough that the blade will not make contact with your face and cut the whiskers. I suppose you could try to bend that piece back with some pliers to see if it helps. Other than that I don't really have any ideas.

 

[TheVez2]

The razor in question was mine. I sold it to Squirrel Nut Zipper. There was nothing wrong with it before I sent it, as I had used it several times myself. It was one of two Type M razors that I have.

The 'J' was brought up as possibly being the culprit. It looks the same as my other Type M and my Type J so I'm pretty sure it is mechanically sound. I took a picture of a few of my schicks to compare.

L to R: Type J, Type M, Type E

 

[Slivovitz]

. . .The 'J' was brought up as possibly being the culprit. It looks the same as my other Type M and my Type J so I'm pretty sure it is mechanically sound. I took a picture of a few of my schicks to compare. . .

Ditto. I've got two of the adjustables myself, soon to be one, as I'm giving the spare away. They both look pretty much like the pictures, and both work fine. Don't know what the issue is here, but I wouldn't go bending things without being totally sure.

 

[gearchow]

The bent J probably isn't anything. Looking at the excellent pictures, the base plate that the blade sits on is flat, the guard is even, the blade stops are intact and the blade is pushed up against them equally, the top of the razor appears to be clamping the blade evenly against the base plate.

With an SE razor, I don't think you need to go much further away from the edge of the blade when talking about quality of shave.

Now if something was jangly, sure, look at the clamping mechanism. Try shaving your arm so you can closely look at the action?

-jim

 

[squirrel_nut_zipper]

Okay, I'm not the best filmmaker, but here is proof positive that this razor doesn't cut hair. I don't have the hairiest arms in the world, but there is enough there to see that nothing comes off with repeated scraping (turn up your volume to hear said scraping). At the end, you see that there are a few skin cells under the blade, but not a single hair. I don't think the "J" is causing the problem, but, most likely, there is some internal misalignment that is preventing correct blade exposure.

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[shecky]

Does the blade, removed from the razor, cut anything? From the pictures, it's difficult to see why there should be any problem.

 

[squirrel_nut_zipper]

Does the blade, removed from the razor, cut anything?

Yes, these are brand new blades I'm using.

 

[gearchow]

sharp side out?





Just Kidding!!!!

-jim

 

[shecky]

Yes, these are brand new blades I'm using.

Just to be clear, you can remove that very blade and verify that it is sharp by cleanly slicing through a piece of paper?

 

[Go West Young Man]

Is there any angle at which the blade starts cutting? Have you tried blades from a different batch?

 

[squirrel_nut_zipper]

Is there any angle at which the blade starts cutting? Have you tried blades from a different batch?

No cutting regardless of the angle. The two blades I tried in this razor came from a dispenser that I have already used (or am still using) three blades in different Injectors, and all of them cut just fine.

 

[gearchow]

Try shaving your arm so you can closely look at the action?

-jim

Okay, I'm not the best filmmaker, but here is proof positive that this razor doesn't cut hair.

Ok, when I mentioned shaving your arm, I really meant look closely at the razor as you are mimicking shaving with it. Maybe you could tell what is holding the blade so far off of your skin. But I just tried that with an injector here at home and maybe it's my eyes, but it's kind of hard to see. I got nothing else.

-jim