What glue to use when gluing a badger knot into a wood handle?

[wimbouman]

Gentleman,

Some of you may be following our little brush project, but I post this separately to reach even more experienced brush maker and restorers.

Our question is: What glue to use when gluing a badger knot into a wood handle?

Can we use any glue?
Or a type of epoxy?

Thanks for your valuable advice and suggestions!


Wim

 

[Rudy Vey]

I use Devcon 2 part 5 minute epoxy, like I use on all my pens. Works fine for me.
You may look into the UHU line of glues, I remember they had quite a large selection of epoxy glues.

 

[wimbouman]

I use Devcon 2 part 5 minute epoxy, like I use on all my pens. Works fine for me.
You may look into the UHU line of glues, I remember they had quite a large selection of epoxy glues.

Thanks Rudy, nice to get some advice of a respected craftsman like yourself!
Epoxy it will be, not sure if we can get Devcon here in The Netherlands, but we will probably find another brand in the local shops.

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[henkverhaar]

2 componentenlijm. Een epoxy voldoet prima. Sneldrogende (5 minuten epoxy) is goed genoeg, maar als je zeker wilt zijn van duurzaamheid kun je ook 'normale' epoxy, die 30 minuten verwerkbaar blijft, gebruiken. Die levert meetbaar een sterkere verbinding en betere watervastheid op, maar is in feite overkill. Er zijn ook andere 2 componentenlijmen, zoals een 2 componenten polyurethaanlijm.

Ik gebruik 30 minuten epoxy voor mijn (faux) ivoor ringetjes, en 5 minuten epoxy om de kwast in het handvat te lijmen.

Henk

 

[cooncatbob]

Rough up the plug with some coarse sandpaper to give the epoxy a better surface to grip to.

 

[Luc]

I used epoxy last time and it worked well... I think...

 

[Rudy Vey]

2 componentenlijm. Een epoxy voldoet prima. Sneldrogende (5 minuten epoxy) is goed genoeg, maar als je zeker wilt zijn van duurzaamheid kun je ook 'normale' epoxy, die 30 minuten verwerkbaar blijft, gebruiken. Die levert meetbaar een sterkere verbinding en betere watervastheid op, maar is in feite overkill. Er zijn ook andere 2 componentenlijmen, zoals een 2 componenten polyurethaanlijm.

Ik gebruik 30 minuten epoxy voor mijn (faux) ivoor ringetjes, en 5 minuten epoxy om de kwast in het handvat te lijmen.

Henk

Dank U well, Henk! Not sure if UHU glues are available in Holland, like UHU Plus Schnellfest!
http://www.mtn.nl/UHUlijm.htm

 

[henkverhaar]

Dank U well, Henk! Not sure if UHU glues are available in Holland, like UHU Plus Schnellfest!
http://www.mtn.nl/UHUlijm.htm

Don't think so. Glue market (at least the consumer market) is dominated by 'Bison', Chemische Fabriek Goes, with Pattex (Henkel) a major runner up. Devcon can be found in fly shops... Most professional brands are not available to consumers over here.

 

[Alacrity59]

For something that is going to be around for 20 years in the damp I'd use 2 part epoxy. Next down the ladder for me would be a silicon adhesive. When I was a kid I knocked off the lip of a toilet while sawing and chizelling through a bolt that held the seat. The lip of the toilet has a channel that carries the water to clean the sides of the bowl . . . 30 years later it is still holding strong at my parents house . . . just a very thin line where I glued it in place. (and I learned patience will never try to chisel a bolt off a toilet again)

 

[Bit2]

Rough up the plug with some coarse sandpaper to give the epoxy a better surface to grip to.

Great Tip!
Thanks,
John

 

[wimbouman]

2 componentenlijm. Een epoxy voldoet prima. Sneldrogende (5 minuten epoxy) is goed genoeg, maar als je zeker wilt zijn van duurzaamheid kun je ook 'normale' epoxy, die 30 minuten verwerkbaar blijft, gebruiken. Die levert meetbaar een sterkere verbinding en betere watervastheid op, maar is in feite overkill. Er zijn ook andere 2 componentenlijmen, zoals een 2 componenten polyurethaanlijm.

Ik gebruik 30 minuten epoxy voor mijn (faux) ivoor ringetjes, en 5 minuten epoxy om de kwast in het handvat te lijmen.

Henk

Thx mate!
We're off to the Praxis!

 

[wimbouman]

Thanks, Bob!

We'll do so.
It is great to have a forum like this, sharing ideas and experience!


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[wimbouman]

Hey Don L. ;-)
Thanks!

Did you do some brush work yourself?

Wim

 

[wimbouman]

For something that is going to be around for 20 years in the damp I'd use 2 part epoxy. Next down the ladder for me would be a silicon adhesive. When I was a kid I knocked off the lip of a toilet while sawing and chizelling through a bolt that held the seat. The lip of the toilet has a channel that carries the water to clean the sides of the bowl . . . 30 years later it is still holding strong at my parents house . . . just a very thin line where I glued it in place. (and I learned patience will never try to chisel a bolt off a toilet again)

note to self: 2 part epoxy it is!
(now find out what it is )

 

[Luc]

Hey Don L. ;-)
Thanks!

Did you do some brush work yourself?

Wim

Not really, I repaired a brush that was dropped (by SWMBO) and the handle cracked. I wasn't happy with the brush to start with so I didn't mind much. I re-glued it and exchanged it for soap...

 

[adam_t]

marine epoxy.

 

[henkverhaar]

Thx mate!
We're off to the Praxis!

Which one -- the Amsterdam-Zuidoost Praxis, close to AMC?

 

[wimbouman]

Amsterdam Oost, it will be I think.

Wim

 

[pizzaguy]

Any pics of how much epoxy to use

 

[henkverhaar]

Any pics of how much epoxy to use

Enough to completely soak the wood on the inside of the bowl, and to fill all voids between the knot's base and the bowl.

Contrary to Cooncatbob's remarks, I actually prefer to have a slight glue line between the knot and the handle -- that way I am sure AND can guarantee that no water will seep in between handle and knot, and start eating away the wood. Either that, or have a ring of a water-resistant material at the knot end of the handle.

Henk