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Wet shaving dogmas: my take

So, after about a year of wet shaving, I have come to some conclusions about the dogmas you will read about on B&B every day (warning: controversial content ahead:blush:).

Dogma 1. Proper prep is very important.
My take: Not to the extent that is touted here. I would argue that proper lather is more important than proper prep, and that a great lather will hide a variety of prepping sins. I suppose if your lather is sub-par, prep becomes increasingly important.

Dogma 2. Canned goo is crap, and cannot compare in any way with proper creams/soaps.
My take: Most canned goo is reasonably sufficient. A properly prepared lather from even the humblest products is superior, but a poorly prepared lather from even the most expensive product on the planet is likely to be inferior to the lowly Barbasol. Proper lather preparation is a skill with a steep learning curve, but the rewards are worth the effort. I think the learning curve for proper lather is actually steeper than the learning curve for using a DE.

Dogma 3. Two blades create twice as much irritation as one blade, three blades creates three-halves that of two blades, etc.
My take: Poppycock. This concept has no scientific support whatsoever. A properly handled two-bladed cartridge razor is no more irritating than a single blade.

Dogma 4. Use no pressure.
My take: Truth. Regardless of what weapon you choose, using a light touch is of paramount importance.

Dogma 5. Watch your angles.
My take: Truth. This is one of the most important things you need to learn in order to cut down on irritation.

Dogma 6. A single blade creates fewer ingrowns than a multiblade cartridge.
My take: Poppycock. I actually got more ingrown hairs with a DE than I ever got with a cartridge blade.

Dogma 7. Map your beard growth, and make sure your first pass is with the grain. This can be tricky, especially on the neck where growth patterns can be unusual.
My take: Truth. My whole life I have had one area on the left side of my neck that always had a little bit of irritation. I finally learned that the growth forms almost an circle there, and after much practice can go with the grain on pass one. The irritation has disappeared completely.

Dogma 8. Prep with hot water, rinse with hot water, then cold water.
My take: Poppycock. Extremes of water temperature are not the answer. Prepping with warm water and rinsing with warm, then cool water is superior in my experience. Irritation is increased by overly hot water in the preparation stages.

Dogma 9. Using a brush is superior, because the brush lifts the hairs in preparation for cutting, and gently exfoliates the skin.
My take: Mostly poppycock. I enjoy using a brush, but I think the utility is mostly in creating a proper lather. I think the shave is just as good if you apply the lather with your fingers, and don't believe that the brush enhances the shave by "lifting" the hairs. Too much brush work on a hot face, especially if the bristles are not soft, can actually increase irritation and make the resulting shave worse.

That's all for now. Feel free to shoot me down, or to add your own.:001_smile
 
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Can't say as I'd argue with any of your conclusions, my experience thus far has been fairly similar.
 
I'll disagree insofar that using DE blades and traditional soaps are less expensive and more environmentally beneficial than cartridges and canned goo. I've cut both my expense and waste. I am not a chemist or biologist, but am glad that whatever is in canned goo isn't ending up in the ocean or groundwater.

Also, I find that cartridge razors do not shave as closely as DE. The blades are simply
not as sharp and pivoting heads only make things worse.
 
Dogma 1= I feel with a proper prep (ie. hot shower) I can get a great shave with even canned goo.

Otherwise I completely agree with everything else. I too have gotten more ingrowns with a DE.

HOWEVER, I still enjoy the DE, my brush, my high-end creams and my aftershaves.

Very good post!!!
 
I agree that prep is overrated in some ways. I just do a quick warm water rinse and face lather with a boar brush and shaving soap. I find the lathering process is much more important than prep, when I get a good lather, it really doesn't matter if didn't spend much time on the prep.

I disagree with 2. I feel canned goo is the worst thing for my face and for the environment. For years, I ended up with dry skin cos the chemicals took off all the good stuff from my face. Now I get a great shave which leaves my face looking very healthy (mostly use MWF soap) and I am helping to reduce chemical waste in our oceans.
 
I agree with absolutely...

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everything you said.
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Nicely thought out post. Good read.

I disagree with 2. I feel canned goo is the worst thing for my face and for the environment. For years, I ended up with dry skin cos the chemicals took off all the good stuff from my face. Now I get a great shave which leaves my face looking very healthy (mostly use MWF soap) and I am helping to reduce chemical waste in our oceans.

If we're all about environmentalism we've all come to the wrong place. Our hobby is so based around rarer items that any tiny amount of help your not using canned goo provides the enviornment is a hundred times over canceled out by the fact that you probably have a tube of Proraso from Florence, Italy lying around in your home in America.
 
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So, after about a year of wet shaving, I have come to some conclusions about the dogmas you will read about on B&B every day (warning: controversial content ahead:blush:).

Dogma 1. Proper prep is very important.
My take: Not to the extent that is touted here. I would argue that proper lather is more important than proper prep, and that a great lather will hide a variety of prepping sins. I suppose if your lather is sub-par, prep becomes increasingly important.

This one I fully agree with. In my 10 months since starting Wet Shaving, I have used Aveeno Gel, Dove Conditioner, Barbasol, and Kiss My Face as a pre-shave prep. All have given nearly equal results.

Dogma 2. Canned goo is crap, and cannot compare in any way with proper creams/soaps.

Not all canned goo is created equal. Barbasol is pretty well regarded, and I think Aveeno is very good. That said, most lather properly generated with a brush is still superior.

Another Dogma: The DE razor is the best razor ever invented, and provides a superior shave.

In my experience, the Schick Injector, and Gem/ Ever-Ready/ Star Single Edge razors provide a superior shave to a DE, and with less effort.

Another Dogma II: The more expensive the product, the better the shave.

I have tried a lot of shaving creams, and a few different soaps. Among products that actually work, the difference in performance is usually not astounding. It is very possible to pay a lot of money, and get only a small amount of improvement. There is also a point where paying extra money results in zero improvement in performance.
 
i use the brush first than rub it in with my fingers and than brush again on my first and second pass. this gives me superior shave every time. enjoy
 
Kingfisher, great list!

My comments on your excellent points....


Dogma 1. Proper prep is very important.

I'd say it is, but proper prep can be simple.

Dogma 2. Canned goo is crap, and cannot compare in any way with proper creams/soaps.

Err, functionally it's OK, but there is more to life than baseline function.

Dogma 3. Two blades create twice as much irritation as one blade, three blades creates three-halves that of two blades, etc.

I agree, but I think more than two is silly.

Dogma 4. Use no pressure.

Ha. Good rule to start, but sometimes us leatherfaces can use a little pressure to good effect.

Dogma 5. Watch your angles.

Agreed!

Dogma 6. A single blade creates fewer ingrowns than a multiblade cartridge.

I dunno if it's the single blade, but wet shaving has cut down on my ingrowns. Could be the Veg.

Dogma 7. Map your beard growth, and make sure your first pass is with the grain. This can be tricky, especially on the neck where growth patterns can be unusual.

Agreed!

Dogma 8. Prep with hot water, rinse with hot water, then cold water.

Agreed! Extremes don't help.

Dogma 9. Using a brush is superior, because the brush lifts the hairs in preparation for cutting, and gently exfoliates the skin.

Brushes are more fun than pressing a button and hearing "FSHHHHHH!"
 
Good post. Thanks for blowing up the "exfoliation" dogma (#9). I always wondered where that came from. If you shave with a razor every day, no way your skin is going to be " exfoliated" by rubbing with a soft, lather-lubricated brush!
 
There's little consensus - shaving is a whole YMMV thing. Simply taking the time to do anything well, is likely to provide better results than not bothering. Using cartridges strays into the realm of not bothering, because it does it all for you, so many users instantly assume nothing else needs to be done for those results.

I've posted before that I can get better results with a M3, faster than a DE, in less passes. Multi blades just don't suit some people, they were fine for me. But the process was dull.

I see nothing provocative in the OP. But it does highlight there is an element of D-Evangelism on a board such as this.

Even so, some basic rules to help newbs get started is still helpful. Most people are smart enough to work things out for themselves after a while.
 
Nice post, kingfisher! I don't agree with everything you've said but dogmas are always bad. I'm OK with preparation with warm water, never use hot water and my lather is always on a room temperature. What you've said about ingrowns is maybe truth. I think this "dogma" was made as many of us began to use no pressure with DE (or straight) what is, I think, crucial for ingrowns.
 
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