There was a "landmark" ruling this past week in Washington state, where the judge refused to accept an IP address as evidence in a case that a specific person had engaged in illegal file sharing. A list of network addresses was all they had.
Stealing Neighbors Bandwith
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That will be a big help once the case is filed and it becomes case law.
If charges are dropped (because that's all the prosecutor has), unfortunately, it will not be written into case law.
Prosecutors are generally very savvy about avoiding setting a "dangerous" precedent... sadly, civil plaintiffs and criminal defendants are often not very smart and a lot of very bad case law has been set in California by well-meaning people.
Also, if it is a state case and there are no federal charges, the case law would only set precedent within Washington. Each state will need their own case until it happens in a Federal case.
after reading some of these posts it no wonder why people fail to secure their wifi properly.
WHAT?
WHAT?
I named my LAN Ankle Bracelet Monitor and I think it scares the neighbors.
My Jewish friend next door named his The Promised LAN.
My Jewish friend next door named his The Promised LAN.
That is funny.
Rename the wifi FBI surveillance van, that should do it. Nobody in their right mind would connect to that.
That's a good one.
I could really blow my neighbor's mind... he's on parole.
Maybe I'll do it on my 5ghz channel... we generally use the 2.4 for the hand-helds and wife's notebook since it has a better range.
Hey, nothing stopping her from talking politely to him about the other neighbours too.
Polite does not mean pushover.
so true and polite can be the best way to get the desired result, without turning it into a new episode of neighbours from hell.
Illegal? I live in a retirement community and there is so much theft of wifi by current and former law enforcement and state workers that ATT said I would need to change my passwords, etc every three hours. I actually have both an ATT and a verizon wifi in order to get on internet because of this theft.
Slash McCoy
I freehand dog rockets
Sometimes wires are better, with a bluetooth conx for the smartphone or tablet. Cable and connectors are cheap wnough to have an outlet in every room of the house. Makes stealing bandwidth from nexr door a little harder.
Certainly the former, and at the moment looking for the latter.
As a joke, I have heard of people naming their network "FBI Surveillance Van".
I actually named mine "CIA Drone" The day that I did one of my neighbors was outside looking in the sky like a mad man. I asked him what was up and he told me that the CIA is in the neighborhood because he saw them on his internet access list and they have a drone spying on us. I looked up in the sky with him for a minute and told him good luck on his search and walked away all casual like.
For the longest time after that i would see him looking in the sky with a worried look. Never did tell him it was me. Funny my access sped up a bit too....hmm I wonder why?
Cheers,
Todd
So ... how does one tell that neighbours are stealing one's bandwidth?
Please explain this in terms simple enough that a computer n00b (me), for whom anything past "Ctrl-Alt-Del" is quantum physics in Greek, can understand.
Please explain this in terms simple enough that a computer n00b (me), for whom anything past "Ctrl-Alt-Del" is quantum physics in Greek, can understand.
Log into your router and see if there are any unfamiliar devices connected.
My system should have no more than:
My machine
Wife's notebook
My Galaxy S4
Wife's Nook
Nest thermostat
DirecTV
Sony BluRay
If there are more than 7 different MAC addresses in my router's history, then I know that someone else has hacked in and at least momentarily obtained an IP.
If you don't have a wireless router, then you don't have a problem.
Well... some would say that living in the 20th century might be a problem...
I have a Netgear wireless router. I downloaded their Genie program. It shows the IP and MAC address of current and past devices attached to it. I know, or can easily find out, the MAC address of all of my wireless devices. I have a pretty strong password, and haven't been attacked- yet.
You have a strong password and haven't been cracked yet.
I'll bet you a steak dinner you've been attacked, assuming you don't live on a deserted island or you're so remote the jack rabbits can't find you.
Yeah, got the wording wrong.
Slightly off topic but since al the computer experts seem to be here I'll ask. Just how random are randomly generated passwords?
For example. we had forgot a password from a major department store rewards program. We requested a password to log in so we could reset a new one. It gave us about a 10 digit sequence of numbers and letters, some cap, some lower case. It also happened to be the exact same password a company gave us for a router login when we were updating our network just 3 weeks earlier.
How can that happen?
For example. we had forgot a password from a major department store rewards program. We requested a password to log in so we could reset a new one. It gave us about a 10 digit sequence of numbers and letters, some cap, some lower case. It also happened to be the exact same password a company gave us for a router login when we were updating our network just 3 weeks earlier.
How can that happen?
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