today i reached an even better results with my ES-LV65s . Shower, breakfast and only then i dry-shaved using the panasonic. This time i have been able to get a real BBS comparable to that i got with my dorco pace 6 /flex5 hybrid. The difference ? This time i used the same beard mapping i used with the multiblades. In 4'45" i had a really perfect shave. and also without irritation: i splashed the usual wilkinson after shave and it didn't sting at all. I think i will rarely use a manual razor again.This electric razor is really a bad boy.