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The Mac Pro is awesome. Not for your average consumer, but when you're doing video, it will do quite nice. Now if Adobe would quit playing games and create native binaries for After Effects, Photoshop, etc...then everything will be great.Tito said:Mac people check this out WWDC Keynote
Ashe said:While I do like MacOS X, I must say that from what can be seen in the keynote, this new release is the least interesting one since the birth of MacOS X and it's new releases.
Typical, Apple has one thing or one so-called virus and it's all over the news, but people seem to forget the hundreds of thousands of known viruses on Windows and they're, oh so, squeaky clean business practices. Do we really want to get into what Microsoft's business practices are and have been?Ashe said:I will leave out the "irregularities" that have been found on their financial side. The once so clean Apple company seems to be not so clean after all but anyway, let's not jump to conclusions and let's await the extra investigations.
Ashe said:The "it just works" is a very good statement if you only limit yourself to specific hardware that Apple does support fine.
Ashe said:Considering the huge amount of hardware that Microsoft supports I'd say that's pretty damn impressive too from Microsoft.
Ashe said:Anyway, despite the fact that I do like their products and the OS I think they need to refocus their presentations towards the outside and have a more professional attitude.
I agree with you, my statement was a bit too close minded, my apologies.AVB19Peace said:Typical, Apple has one thing or one so-called virus and it's all over the news, but people seem to forget the hundreds of thousands of known viruses on Windows and they're, oh so, squeaky clean business practices. Do we really want to get into what Microsoft's business practices are and have been?
I'm not sure whether I understand what you mean. The days where it took the average or popular hardware to be configured using multiple pages of options are behind us. Even exotic hardware is fairly well recognized from the moment you plug it in.AVB19Peace said:This statement is completely false. That's my whole point of using Apple. Interested in purchasing ProTools with an MBox? Yep, just about any Mac will do. Plug it in and it works. PC side? Sure, once you wade through the two pages of configurations that only will work with certain chip sets, etc... Just got a new or old external hard drive, digital camera, digital video camera, scanner, printer, etc... Plug them in and they work. You want it to be simple to network and print wirelessly? Using OS X, it can't be easier.
No comments on that.AVB19Peace said:IMHO, this is what's wrong with using Windows. I blame Microsoft because I don't like them, but really a lot of it has to do with all this third-party crap that's out there. Yes, there's some good stuff, but anybody can open up "X Company Computers" and think they can build and sell them. And of course, I'm sure they're abiding by what Microsoft sets for their quality standards.
Regardless of the type of audience your conferences are directed to, I think a company like Apple should always retain the same attitude. Seen the amount of hype surrounding Apple, regarding of the type of conference, they should broadcast one consistent attitude. WWDC summaries in the forms of articles are not only read by developers etc.AVB19Peace said:This was not MacWorld or MacExpo showing off the new iPod. It's the World Wide Developer Conference. It's called, playin' to your base.
Ashe said:I'm not sure whether I understand what you mean. The days where it took the average or popular hardware to be configured using multiple pages of options are behind us. Even exotic hardware is fairly well recognized from the moment you plug it in.
Ashe said:The "it just works" is a very good statement if you only limit yourself to specific hardware that Apple does support fine.
You're absolutely right and in this one case, the product is geared more towards Windows now. ProTools is a professional audio application which was bought by Avid. Avid killed their Mac video editing line when NT came out and thought it was cheaper. They've brought it back, but still definitely a Windows type of company.Ashe said:Regarding the ProTools: I don't know the product but the only thing I can say is that products tend to be designed for specific platforms. This however does not mean that that is the only platform it is able to work on.
Of course some things work plug-n-play on Windows. I gave one example and stated there are numerous others. Please don't insult my intelligence by insinuating that I cherry picked one product to prove a point. I've been using computers, including Mac and Windows way too long for that. I've been using them in a professional production environment including video post production, compositing, motion graphics design, DVD design & authoring, video compression and professional audio.Ashe said:I'm sure that if I did a little research I could easily find other software/hardware that is able to work perfectly by just plugging in a Windows box while extensive manual configuration would be needed on Apple but let's not go there.
I agree and disagree with you on this. You might be giving too much credit to the big public. It's worked for Fox News and their agenda.Ashe said:I agree with you that if you have a very small marketshare, one of the better ways to gain media attention is to scream to the public and compare your product with others (and make some nasty remarks), however this only has a limited impact to the big public.
TheYoshi said:As far as the dell stuff goes, a couple thoughts. First I don't think they were so much aiming at Dell specifically as much as I think they just were showing off that price wise they aren't as overpriced as is commonly claimed by the PC bigots.
again can't say I blame Apple for firing a warning shot their either although I'm not sure that's what they were even going for.
Ashe said:AVB,
Please note that I didn't mean to disrespect you in any way. If I would have, then please accept my apologies.
Why didn't you say so? Damn, A Mac with OS X is right up your alley. There's a lot of UNIX programmers that have two machines. One UNIX box and one Windows box to do their e-mail, office stuff, etc...They're getting rid of both and getting Mac's with OS X. They have both OS's right there on one machine. Now, with the Intel machines they can have three with Windows on it too if they absolutely have too.Ashe said:I've been working both personal and professional in environments where a multide of platforms and operating systems (mostly UNIX based) were used, however no Macs were there, so no experience yet.