Months ago I tried Williams mug soap. I bought them at a grocery store on sale for 99 cents lol i know my wallet is hurting. Well I know some people have a hard time lathering or have performance issue and in my opinion iv had some pucks lather good and some dont even soaked in warm water. My opinion speculations is that you can get good or bad lathers depends on the luck with the puck but hey for $1-2 what do you expect I still like Williams.