I got a great shave from Stirling today. I was so used to get Haslinger nice and yet, that I had to start dialing it back in for Stirling. I tend to prefer this one a hair drier than what I was getting used to with Haslinger. I'm glad I finally got hooked on the 3017 bug. It's really exciting to get a soap figured out and just stick with it. It's adding another element to shaving that I didn't know existed.. after all these years.