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Update on my break from 3017'ing:

I've been rotating Cella, Proraso, MWF, and Eton College. It's interesting having a rotation again. I seem to be gravitating towards MWF for some reason, maybe because of the milder scent.

I've been using a cream for a while now so I have to load a lot more than I expect with the soaps. Cella requires a lot more loading than Proraso. For those two I can load up a fair amount until it gets a bit of foam and work on the face.

With MWF, I may have FINALLY figured it out after three previous pucks I didn't like. First I am loading AND building lather in one go on top of the puck. Loading soap doesn't work with this one, you have to get some foam going. Add water and some pressure to lather on the puck and it actually lathers up quickly. Most other soaps will build a dense sticky proto-lather but not this one. You just have to make the lather in one go (which makes sense if it's a mug soap). Second the lather is different from other soaps. With those you can build a dense, slick almost yogurt or sour cream type lather. MWF is more of a fluffy whipped cream, but the lather works just fine.

Next week I'm going on vacation and I think I'll probably bring my little 18mm Rudy Vey Finest and either one of the smaller soaps or maybe my tube of Speick cream (love that stuff).
 
Good lord. I finally got around to actually starting his thread from the very beginning. As I can only do this during free time, I've only got 1/10 of the way through since last Thursday. I'm sure that it might be near 3017 by the time I get to this very post.

In any case, I've got a couple of 10ml samples that I'm going to start on, then move on to bigger game. Currently in my cabinet I have several RR/IB soaps, but I won't put them to this test right now. First up will be my first puck of MWF which already has about 20-30 shaves on it despite being over a year old; yep, I was flirting with other creams and crappier soaps, and only coming back to this every couple of weeks or so.

At bat starting tonight:
Cella (10ml sample)

on deck:
ToBS sandalwood (10ml sample)

and in the hole:
Mitchell's Wool Fat

Perhaps I'll be caught up reading this thread before I finish MWF. Perhaps not.
 
Good lord. I finally got around to actually starting his thread from the very beginning. As I can only do this during free time, I've only got 1/10 of the way through since last Thursday. I'm sure that it might be near 3017 by the time I get to this very post.

In any case, I've got a couple of 10ml samples that I'm going to start on, then move on to bigger game. Currently in my cabinet I have several RR/IB soaps, but I won't put them to this test right now. First up will be my first puck of MWF which already has about 20-30 shaves on it despite being over a year old; yep, I was flirting with other creams and crappier soaps, and only coming back to this every couple of weeks or so.

At bat starting tonight:
Cella (10ml sample)

on deck:
ToBS sandalwood (10ml sample)

and in the hole:
Mitchell's Wool Fat

Perhaps I'll be caught up reading this thread before I finish MWF. Perhaps not.

MWF is a classic, enjoy!
 
Good lord. I finally got around to actually starting his thread from the very beginning. As I can only do this during free time, I've only got 1/10 of the way through since last Thursday. I'm sure that it might be near 3017 by the time I get to this very post.
Ok you convinced me to start this Herculean effort again. When I first started 3017, i started to read from the beginning - and get this - lost where I left off....Doh! I started over though, and now committed to reading all the way up to my own first post!!!


It still amazes me the rate of usage by @johnnygold. Burning though a triple milled puck in 2-3 months at times with his Eagle G3.

In comparison, did anyone else listen to the Wet Shaving News podcast?? He states that 1) an artisan made soap used every day should last 10 months (he states he 3 pass shaves 6/7 days) and 2) that a soap scent starts to disparate after a year! While usage is YMMV, it certainly differs from what we generally read from the accounts of those who contribute to this thread.






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Ok you convinced me to start this Herculean effort again. When I first started 3017, i started to read from the beginning - and get this - lost where I left off....Doh! I started over though, and now committed to reading all the way up to my own first post!!!


It still amazes me the rate of usage by @johnnygold. Burning though a triple milled puck in 2-3 months at times with his Eagle G3.

In comparison, did anyone else listen to the Wet Shaving News podcast?? He states that 1) an artisan made soap used every day should last 10 months (he states he 3 pass shaves 6/7 days) and 2) that a soap scent starts to disparate after a year! While usage is YMMV, it certainly differs from what we generally read from the accounts of those who contribute to this thread.






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I have no idea what that podcast is, and there's always YMMV and all, but 10 months for an artisan croap isn't my experience at all. 2-3 months is about my norm for a normal ~100g tub. I don't even get 10 months out of a milled soap like MWF or DRH.
 
In comparison, did anyone else listen to the Wet Shaving News podcast?? He states that 1) an artisan made soap used every day should last 10 months (he states he 3 pass shaves 6/7 days) and 2) that a soap scent starts to disparate after a year! While usage is YMMV, it certainly differs from what we generally read from the accounts of those who contribute to this thread.

That right there is a bunch of bs.
 

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Perhaps his artisan soaps gets purchased by the 5 gallon bucket sized puck? I would not worry too much about the opinions of YouTubers, and rely more upon the wisdom and insights of our vast membership.
 
I was on vacation for the past three weeks - doing a bunch of hiking and driving. Averaged a shave about once every three or four days during that period. Sixty shaves in on the tin of WSP Black Amber Vanille and it's still going strong. There is probably about 1/3 to 1/2 of the soap still left. I've grown increasingly fond of the slickness of the soap - the scent is still not my favorite.
 
Ok you convinced me to start this Herculean effort again. When I first started 3017, i started to read from the beginning - and get this - lost where I left off....Doh! I started over though, and now committed to reading all the way up to my own first post!!!


It still amazes me the rate of usage by @johnnygold. Burning though a triple milled puck in 2-3 months at times with his Eagle G3.

In comparison, did anyone else listen to the Wet Shaving News podcast?? He states that 1) an artisan made soap used every day should last 10 months (he states he 3 pass shaves 6/7 days) and 2) that a soap scent starts to disparate after a year! While usage is YMMV, it certainly differs from what we generally read from the accounts of those who contribute to this thread.






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I have listened to that podcast in the past. Not my favorite by a long shot. I don't put much stock in what I hear on that one because it seems mostly to be a 20 minute advertisement for the same vendors each time.


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Perhaps his artisan soaps gets purchased by the 5 gallon bucket sized puck? I would not worry too much about the opinions of YouTubers, and rely more upon the wisdom and insights of our vast membership.
That or the dude has a ZZ Top beard and only uses shave soap to trim his ear hair.
 
there's always YMMV and all, but 10 months for an artisan croap isn't my experience at all. 2-3 months is about my norm for a normal ~100g tub. I don't even get 10 months out of a milled soap like MWF or DRH.

YES INDEED! B&B discussion/reviews are much more reliable than any podcast or Amazon review IME.
 
This thread is Epic. In any case this will be long so skip down to TL:Dr if you are impatient. So I started wet shaving in 1972 with dad's old Gillette Fatboy. At that time he had succumbed to canned foam as most had so I did as well. I kept going with DE's until the Trac 2 hit the scene and like most was taken in. Time passes. My wife gave me her fathers old Old Spice shaving Mug (a 1960 -64) with an Old Spice refill in it in 1992. From that point on I used shaving soap unless I was Travelling. A few old Spice refills mostly Colgate or Williams. Still with 2 or three blade cartridges. In 2014 I went into an Art of Shaving store and bought a Muhle R106 and some blades and went back to how I started. Better shaves of course and I discovered Proraso Red. This June I did some research and bought some old razors: Fatboy, Slims, Superspeeds and a Tech. I have retired my "modern" razors, and am happy as a clean shaven clam. So June comes along and I discover there is more to soap than Williams and Proraso. So i have now about 15 soaps. So the funny thing is I have been 3017'ing soap since about 1992 like a drone. At least now I know what I'm doing. I have Proraso red down to a science.

TL:DR 3017'ing soap like a drone for 25 years. Will join in the sweet science shortly. Your efforts unnoticed all these years have inspired me and I will join the effort shortly.
 
This thread is Epic. In any case this will be long so skip down to TL:Dr if you are impatient. So I started wet shaving in 1972 with dad's old Gillette Fatboy. At that time he had succumbed to canned foam as most had so I did as well. I kept going with DE's until the Trac 2 hit the scene and like most was taken in. Time passes. My wife gave me her fathers old Old Spice shaving Mug (a 1960 -64) with an Old Spice refill in it in 1992. From that point on I used shaving soap unless I was Travelling. A few old Spice refills mostly Colgate or Williams. Still with 2 or three blade cartridges. In 2014 I went into an Art of Shaving store and bought a Muhle R106 and some blades and went back to how I started. Better shaves of course and I discovered Proraso Red. This June I did some research and bought some old razors: Fatboy, Slims, Superspeeds and a Tech. I have retired my "modern" razors, and am happy as a clean shaven clam. So June comes along and I discover there is more to soap than Williams and Proraso. So i have now about 15 soaps. So the funny thing is I have been 3017'ing soap since about 1992 like a drone. At least now I know what I'm doing. I have Proraso red down to a science.

TL:DR 3017'ing soap like a drone for 25 years. Will join in the sweet science shortly. Your efforts unnoticed all these years have inspired me and I will join the effort shortly.
Welcome to the Club. I have become so compulsive about it that when I traveled last week I took the same soap along.
 
Likewise. I have a 'travel soap' which is a tube of GFT coconut cream and various samples in my travel bag but I always end up putting my current soap in and sticking with it even on the road. Compulsive is a very good description of my habits with 3017, once I get started on something I just don't want to interrupt progress toward completion. Its a sickness :biggrin:


Welcome to the Club. I have become so compulsive about it that when I traveled last week I took the same soap along.
 
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It's has taken far longer than I anticipated but after four and a half months, I have finally hit the bottom of the Valobra Menthol.

Once dialled in this soap has been reliably consistent and is providing thick creamy lathers and smooth, irritation free shaves.

Its fragrance is its main downfall in my opinion, but the shaves have been good so it's a minor point.

I have a few option to consider for my next:
DR Harris Windsor
Valobra Fougere
Fine Platinum.

Hmm, decisions decisions.
 
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It's has taken far longer than I anticipated but after four and a half months, I have finally hit the bottom of the Valobra Menthol.

Once dialled in this soap has been reliably consistent and is providing thick creamy lathers and smooth, irritation free shaves.

Its fragrance is its main downfall in my opinion, but the shaves have been good so it's a minor point.

I have a few option to consider for my next:
DR Harris Windsor
Valobra Fougere
Fine Platinum.

Hmm, decisions decisions.

Congratulations on making it that far. Experience tells me that the last scrape of a hard soap can take forever to disappear, so hang in there! You have some quality soaps in your upcoming list... hard to go wrong.
 
Congratulations on making it that far. Experience tells me that the last scrape of a hard soap can take forever to disappear, so hang in there! You have some quality soaps in your upcoming list... hard to go wrong.

I agree totally. Those last scraps at the bottom can take forever to finish off.

In regards to longevity, if this were the hard Valobra soap, I would be completely accepting of it lasting this long. However this is the soft soap, and I was expecting it to last a month to six weeks only.
 
Tiki Bar soap Spice Islands is in the home stretch. I have concluded I just don't like this soap, and brighter man would have stopped using it but I'll finish this and move on to something better. I am loading it like I hate it (I kinda do) and expect it to be done this weekend. Scent is cloying, and although it makes awesome looking lather more often than not I don't get the slickness I need for a comfortable, close shave.

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I want to thank all of you 3017 soap warriors. Reading this thread has enabled me to whip up great lather on any soap. It has really enhanced the daily ritual.
 
Mystic Waters Brown Windsor is outstanding. I'm using a modified Marco technique and lathering directly on the soap. I'm unintentionally killing it, but the lather and shave quality is so worth it.
 
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