My Guess... 3017
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I've been on the road since the 20th and I didn't want to risk breaking my old spice mug so I brought along a tin of mikes barbershop and MdC. I'll get back to the grind on Friday.
As an aside, I think Mikes is a way better soap than MdC. I have a feeling I'll be trading it for a new brush and/or other soaps.
As an aside, I think Mikes is a way better soap than MdC. I have a feeling I'll be trading it for a new brush and/or other soaps.
Yesterday was the last shave with P160. Lasted 67-68 shaves (apple notes deleted by accident). Would purchase again-very slick and moisturizing, and perfect for the winter.
next up: I am going to use la shaving soap samples of SM bay rum, and bespoke #1. Following that, a sample of T&H grafton. When those 3 are done, I will knock out the last 50 grams of xpec original.
10/10/13- 1/1/14 P160 (67 shaves)
I could probably knock out my collection in a year, if I didn't keep adding to it. So far I'm down to half of a Speick stick (another on the way with some Proraso Red), a puck of VDH Luxury that's only been used once, and a half-empty tube of Cremo. My Cirmes puck got banished to the shower, as I got tired of fighting with it to make a useable lather. Oh yeah, and there's a sampler of RazoRock ACBCA en route from a generous PIF (Thanks, Xillion!). Ok... maybe more than a year. I'll need more blades and aftershave before the month is up though!
Taking a short hiatus of EPL while I wait for a replacement bowl to arrive.
Speick is an incredible soap. I may go back to my weekly soap rotation. We shall see! Not sure if I have what it takes to finish something.
Speick is an incredible soap. I may go back to my weekly soap rotation. We shall see! Not sure if I have what it takes to finish something.
Anyone else experienced this with a product before?
Tiny hard bits of soap mixed in? I didn't mill it because it's a soft soap. Just came like that. It started feeling like an exfoliating face wash.
It's a shame because I was at least halfway through the 100g.
I experienced that at the end of a red tub of Cella. Maybe the last 10 shaves or so.
9/16/13-9/23/13 Antica Barbiera Bitter Almond 1/2 oz Sample, 11 shaves; 8 face, 3 head, a day or two of Kyle's prep. Nothing special.
9/24/13-10/23/13: Mitchell's Wool Fat 1/2 oz sample: 35 shaves; 8 head, 27 face, 3 passes. I can't believe how long the sample lasted. Head and shoulders above all my other soaps so far. Will buy again.
10/24/13-10/27/13: did not shave
10/28/13-11/3/13: TOBS Sandlewood cream, 1/2 oz sample: 7 days, 7 shaves all face. Very nice scent, excellent cream but I'm not a cream guy. Might try the soap one day.
11/4/13-12/10/13: Cella 1/2 oz sample: 29 shaves. Very good, easy to lather, nice slickness and cushion Scent is just ok. Second to MWF
12/11/13-12/24/13: Mike's Lily of the Valley sample: 12 SHAVES. Doesn't last as long as MWF or Cella. Good, not great, I'd rank behind Cella.
12/25/13-12/31/13: Used a CF cream I got for xmas
1/1/14-???: Tabac 1/2oz. Sample
9/24/13-10/23/13: Mitchell's Wool Fat 1/2 oz sample: 35 shaves; 8 head, 27 face, 3 passes. I can't believe how long the sample lasted. Head and shoulders above all my other soaps so far. Will buy again.
10/24/13-10/27/13: did not shave
10/28/13-11/3/13: TOBS Sandlewood cream, 1/2 oz sample: 7 days, 7 shaves all face. Very nice scent, excellent cream but I'm not a cream guy. Might try the soap one day.
11/4/13-12/10/13: Cella 1/2 oz sample: 29 shaves. Very good, easy to lather, nice slickness and cushion Scent is just ok. Second to MWF
12/11/13-12/24/13: Mike's Lily of the Valley sample: 12 SHAVES. Doesn't last as long as MWF or Cella. Good, not great, I'd rank behind Cella.
12/25/13-12/31/13: Used a CF cream I got for xmas
1/1/14-???: Tabac 1/2oz. Sample
Well, on 12/24/13 I started working on a puck of Tabac as my first attempt at 3017. My first reaction is that after a couple of shaves to dial in the water/product combination, this soap produces as high a quality of lather that I have ever gotten from anything I have tried. Of course you all already know this.
I am not sure that I will be able to see this to completion, however. The scent doesn't give me that refreshed feeling after shaving that I love. The scent is also very strong, and I can even get a whiff of it hours later. I will try to finish out the month of January and see if my opinion changes.
I am not sure that I will be able to see this to completion, however. The scent doesn't give me that refreshed feeling after shaving that I love. The scent is also very strong, and I can even get a whiff of it hours later. I will try to finish out the month of January and see if my opinion changes.
For me, the scent did decrease a little over time. Tabac is an ambitious undertaking for your first 3017 attempt, because it is larger than most other pucks, so lasts much longer.
This reminds me that I need to update my list!
This reminds me that I need to update my list!
Nice thread! I've always used products more or less this way so I'll join in. This past summer, I started on my first tub of Cella and liked it so much I used it every day until it was gone. Then I went with a tube of Proraso green that lasted me until just before Christmas. Now I'm on my first puck of Tabac.
I feel lucky in a way that I have hard water so I use more product than most people to get a good lather
I feel lucky in a way that I have hard water so I use more product than most people to get a good lather
The SCS sandlewood started on 12.16 is still cruising right along
2014 the year of SCS
2014 the year of SCS
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IT'S OVER...
The journey that began on January 1, 2010 ended almost 4 years to the day. On December 31, 2013, the Penhaligon's English Fern gave up its last shave.
What began as preventative measure to curb the accumulation of soaps in my collection and to use product that was sitting in my shave den grew into something that took on a life of its own and from that the "3017" method was hatched.
Trust me when I tell you, it was totally unintentional. Heck, it wasn't even my idea. As more of us joined in it became apparent to many of us that perhaps we were doing ourselves a disservice by using soaps in such a large rotation that we really weren't getting the full effect of what a soap's true potential could be by using a puck on a daily basis and discovering each soap's particular nuances. From this, the 3017 method was born.
Originally, the thread was called "2017" not "3017". At the time this thread began, I thought it would take me until the year 2017 to finish the soaps pictured above (and a few not pictured). On a lark, one of the Mods changed the title to "3017" and it stuck.
During the course of this thread, many members have joined in. Some have stayed, some have gone and some poke their heads in occasionally. The thread has continued to flourish with the help of members like beginish, inspiringk, brucered, FL shaver, djh, Jim, brianw, insomniac, catherix, Sullybob, brothers, strop and breadstick (who could forget those lists)... just to name a few who so vigilantly carry the 3017 banner and adhere to its methodology. There are many more members who contribute regularly and with great enthusiasm and vitality.
The 3017'ers are an extraordinary group of individuals who have performed PIF's, laid down soap challenges, feed the need of list-makers (you know who you are
), charts and tables have been developed demonstrating which soaps are the most popular (DR Harris Arlington, thank you very much 
) also showing a change over the years of which soaps have fallen in and out of favor as well as soaps that are no longer in existence. The 3017'ers have developed a resourceful reference tool for those seeking information on certain soaps.
All in all, the experience for me has been a positive one. A little self-discipline never hurt anyone and it sure beat the hell out of failing the Purchase Sabbaticals on an annual basis.
This is how it went....
2010
C&E Sandalwood Shave Soap 1/01/2010 to 3/22/2010 (81 days)
Pre de Provence Shaving Soap 3/23/2010 to 6/20/2010 (89 days)
DR Harris Arlington s/s 6/21/2010 to 8/31/2010 (soap was not used for a nine-day period in August) (63 days)
(participated in Speicktember so no soap was used in the month of September)
L'Occitane Cade Shaving Soap in Aluminum Dish 11/01/2010 to 12/15/2010 (45 days)
Mitchell's Wool Fat Soap in ceramic bowl 10/01/2010 to 10/31/2010 - stopped to participate in the Cade challenge that started on 11/01/2010 - resumed with MWF on 12/16 and was completed on 12/28/2010. ) (44 days)
2011
Tabac Shave Soap 12/29/2010 to 2/23/2011 (58 days)
AOS Unscented Shaving Soap 2/24/2011 to 4/19/2011 (56 days)
Floris JF shave soap 4/20/2011 to 6/11/2011 (54 days)
Truefitt& Hill Luxury Shaving Soap (wooden bowl) 6/12/2011 to 8/18/2011 (69 days)
Trumper Limes Shave Soap 8/19/2011 to 10/13/2011 (56 days)
DR Harris Marlborough Shave Soap 10/17/2011 to 12/22/2011 (66 days)
- from 12/23/11 until 12/31, I used a tube of Old Spice so as to begin a new soap on 1/1/12
2012
Trumper Sandalwood Shave Soap 1/01/2012 to 3/16/2012 (76 days)
- used a tube of Old Spice s/c until I returned from vacation and began the La Toja/Rover challenge on 4/9
La Toja Manantiales shave soap (wooden bowl)* 4/9/2012 to 5/30/2012 (51 days)
DR Harris Lavender Shave Soap* 5/31/2012 to 8/11/2012 (73 days)
Soap Hiatus - Used La Toja Cream from 8/12/2012 to 8/31/2012
Trumper Rose Shave Soap 9/1/2012 to 11/17/2012 (78 days)
Soap Hiatus - Used tubes of La Toja and Floris JF to finish out 2012
2013
Penhaligon's Bleinheim Bouquet 1/01/2013 to 3/7/2013 (66 days)
Mennen Shave Stick (grated into wooden bowl) 3/8/2013 to 3/22/2013 (16 days)
NOS Old Spice 3/23/2013 to 5/14/2013 (53 days)
-used tube of Floris JF shaving cream from 5/15/13 to 5/31/2013
Irisch Moos 6/1/2013 to 10/5/2013 (126 days* - I would subtract approx. 2-3 weeks for non-shaving days over the summer)
Penhaligon's English Fern 10/6/2013 to 12/31/2013 (86 days)
And what became of all those empty soap bowls?
They were donated to the 2nd Annual Sue Moore Auction fetching $165.00 from.. you guessed it, brianw.
Where to from here?
Although the soaps pictured above were the original ones that I set out to finish, this is what remains in my collection and were obtained after the challenge had begun...
DR Harris Arlington
DR Harris Windsor
AoS Lavender
Martin de Candre (unscented)
Old Spice NOS
Crabtree & Evelyn Almond Oil NOS
Arko Shave stick
On January 2nd, I began the NOS Old Spice puck (still in its original cellophane wrapping). Honestly, I don't think I will ever go back to a full rotation of soaps. However, with the conclusion of this journey, I think I will use other soaps when the mood strikes me rather than the dogged determination to keep moving forward on any one particular soap.
From this thread, I take away the lessons learned. I have enjoyed it immensely.
For me, the journey is over.
The journey that began on January 1, 2010 ended almost 4 years to the day. On December 31, 2013, the Penhaligon's English Fern gave up its last shave.
What began as preventative measure to curb the accumulation of soaps in my collection and to use product that was sitting in my shave den grew into something that took on a life of its own and from that the "3017" method was hatched.
Trust me when I tell you, it was totally unintentional. Heck, it wasn't even my idea. As more of us joined in it became apparent to many of us that perhaps we were doing ourselves a disservice by using soaps in such a large rotation that we really weren't getting the full effect of what a soap's true potential could be by using a puck on a daily basis and discovering each soap's particular nuances. From this, the 3017 method was born.
Originally, the thread was called "2017" not "3017". At the time this thread began, I thought it would take me until the year 2017 to finish the soaps pictured above (and a few not pictured). On a lark, one of the Mods changed the title to "3017" and it stuck.
During the course of this thread, many members have joined in. Some have stayed, some have gone and some poke their heads in occasionally. The thread has continued to flourish with the help of members like beginish, inspiringk, brucered, FL shaver, djh, Jim, brianw, insomniac, catherix, Sullybob, brothers, strop and breadstick (who could forget those lists)... just to name a few who so vigilantly carry the 3017 banner and adhere to its methodology. There are many more members who contribute regularly and with great enthusiasm and vitality.
The 3017'ers are an extraordinary group of individuals who have performed PIF's, laid down soap challenges, feed the need of list-makers (you know who you are
), charts and tables have been developed demonstrating which soaps are the most popular (DR Harris Arlington, thank you very much ) also showing a change over the years of which soaps have fallen in and out of favor as well as soaps that are no longer in existence. The 3017'ers have developed a resourceful reference tool for those seeking information on certain soaps.All in all, the experience for me has been a positive one. A little self-discipline never hurt anyone and it sure beat the hell out of failing the Purchase Sabbaticals on an annual basis.
This is how it went....
2010
C&E Sandalwood Shave Soap 1/01/2010 to 3/22/2010 (81 days)
Pre de Provence Shaving Soap 3/23/2010 to 6/20/2010 (89 days)
DR Harris Arlington s/s 6/21/2010 to 8/31/2010 (soap was not used for a nine-day period in August) (63 days)
(participated in Speicktember so no soap was used in the month of September)
L'Occitane Cade Shaving Soap in Aluminum Dish 11/01/2010 to 12/15/2010 (45 days)
Mitchell's Wool Fat Soap in ceramic bowl 10/01/2010 to 10/31/2010 - stopped to participate in the Cade challenge that started on 11/01/2010 - resumed with MWF on 12/16 and was completed on 12/28/2010. ) (44 days)
2011
Tabac Shave Soap 12/29/2010 to 2/23/2011 (58 days)
AOS Unscented Shaving Soap 2/24/2011 to 4/19/2011 (56 days)
Floris JF shave soap 4/20/2011 to 6/11/2011 (54 days)
Truefitt& Hill Luxury Shaving Soap (wooden bowl) 6/12/2011 to 8/18/2011 (69 days)
Trumper Limes Shave Soap 8/19/2011 to 10/13/2011 (56 days)
DR Harris Marlborough Shave Soap 10/17/2011 to 12/22/2011 (66 days)
- from 12/23/11 until 12/31, I used a tube of Old Spice so as to begin a new soap on 1/1/12
2012
Trumper Sandalwood Shave Soap 1/01/2012 to 3/16/2012 (76 days)
- used a tube of Old Spice s/c until I returned from vacation and began the La Toja/Rover challenge on 4/9
La Toja Manantiales shave soap (wooden bowl)* 4/9/2012 to 5/30/2012 (51 days)
DR Harris Lavender Shave Soap* 5/31/2012 to 8/11/2012 (73 days)
Soap Hiatus - Used La Toja Cream from 8/12/2012 to 8/31/2012
Trumper Rose Shave Soap 9/1/2012 to 11/17/2012 (78 days)
Soap Hiatus - Used tubes of La Toja and Floris JF to finish out 2012
2013
Penhaligon's Bleinheim Bouquet 1/01/2013 to 3/7/2013 (66 days)
Mennen Shave Stick (grated into wooden bowl) 3/8/2013 to 3/22/2013 (16 days)
NOS Old Spice 3/23/2013 to 5/14/2013 (53 days)
-used tube of Floris JF shaving cream from 5/15/13 to 5/31/2013
Irisch Moos 6/1/2013 to 10/5/2013 (126 days* - I would subtract approx. 2-3 weeks for non-shaving days over the summer)
Penhaligon's English Fern 10/6/2013 to 12/31/2013 (86 days)
And what became of all those empty soap bowls?
They were donated to the 2nd Annual Sue Moore Auction fetching $165.00 from.. you guessed it, brianw.
Where to from here?
Although the soaps pictured above were the original ones that I set out to finish, this is what remains in my collection and were obtained after the challenge had begun...
DR Harris Arlington
DR Harris Windsor
AoS Lavender
Martin de Candre (unscented)
Old Spice NOS
Crabtree & Evelyn Almond Oil NOS
Arko Shave stick
On January 2nd, I began the NOS Old Spice puck (still in its original cellophane wrapping). Honestly, I don't think I will ever go back to a full rotation of soaps. However, with the conclusion of this journey, I think I will use other soaps when the mood strikes me rather than the dogged determination to keep moving forward on any one particular soap.
From this thread, I take away the lessons learned. I have enjoyed it immensely.
For me, the journey is over.
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Nice Bob!
Wow! Great journey and wonderful thread!! Thanks for starting it all Bob! Congratulations!
Ben
Ben
Great job Bob, congrats on completing your journey.
Congrats Bob...What a journey it was.
When you do finally need to buy soap in 2016, which ones will be in your closet?
Congratulations Bob! It was an amazing journey.
