I saw a lather video of someone bowl lathering a hard soap with a boar. I saw how much water he kept in his brush before loading his brush. Then he went to a bowl. I tried this. Lather starts off bubbly and ligh, but quickly turned into tons of rich lather. I finally got the results I should have been looking for. My question is would you guys start with the same amount of water if one was going to face lather? Seems like it would be an awful mess starting off building the lather. Would you shake the water out before loading the brush and then add water? I prefer face lathering, but never get such a rich lather as I did tonight.