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Henson AL13+ vs ++ and ++ vs Merkur 34C

JCinPA

The Lather Maestro
Long story short, I ordered an AL13++ and they mistakenly sent an AL13+. I offered to send it back but they told me to keep both, so I set up a PIF for a new user in the Newbie forum. A member won it to give to his 17-year-old grandson, which I think is terrific! They asked me to do a side-by-side of the two before I mail it out, though, so today's shave was teh + vs the ++.

I was going to do two of these, with the + first on the left, then on the right the following day, but after today's shave I don't think that is necessary, so tomorrow I will go straight to the ++ versus the Merkur 34C. Over my 13 years of doing this, I've rotated between the 34C, Merkur Slant, DE 89, Gillette vintage Tech, Schick injectors of various vintages, and a few Gillette TTO including the Fatboy. However, far and away, the razor I kept coming back to as my daily driver was the 34C.

I rotate a lot of blades, but my most used daily driver is the Gillette Super Platinum (Black, India), and while I have used a lot of soaps and creams, I decided to break out one of hoarded Tabac original tallow pucks for this (in an Old Spice mug, that you see in the photo, but it's original Tabac!). So nothing changes I will use the blade only once, and I will only use a synthetic brush, either a PAA Amber Aero Lite or a Stirling Tuxedo. After a Thayer's WH application I'll use a Lilac Vegetal splash because NOTHING highlights a lapse in technique like The Veg, and, well, I just love it. I am a charter member of The Knights of the Veg Table (poster #5).

Below is the first shave result, + on left side, ++ on right side. As mentioned switching sides is not needed, so the placeholder for post #3 will be for the AL13++ vs the Merkur 34C tomorrow.

You'll note I am using two Edwin Jagger handles. The Henson razor head is a remarkable and stunning improvement to what is, basically, a 120+ year-old design. They've perfected it. Their handle, IMNSHO, however is a design defect I wish they'd address. Their long handle hits me in the chest or collar bone when doing my N-S pass low on my neck. I don't think the razor needs more weight, but it needs a shorter, fatter handle. Their machined aluminum is very grippy and would be perfect, I don't know why they went with the ridiculously long handle in the first place, but they have stocked a shorter version in the past.

This tells me they have the CNC coding to make them, and adding a few SKUs to their system would be easily managed with inventory software. I've suggested they offer it with both handle options, but did not receive a response. If they do that I will order one, but for now, and for the permanent future if they don't make shorter handles the AL13++ head will live on my DE 89 chrome handle you see here.
 

JCinPA

The Lather Maestro
Sunday, June 30 morning shave. AL13+ on left AL13++ on right
  • Tabac original tallow soap
  • Gillette Super Platinum (blacks, India) first shave
  • PAA Amber Aero Lite synthetic brush
  • Thayer's unscented WH
  • Pinaud Lilac Vegetal

As has been posted by many others there is only a slight difference between the mild and the medium. However as someone who always gravitates toward a razor aggressiveness of about a Merkur 34C or an EJ DE 89, if that is you and you are thinking of ordering a Henson, go with the ++, don't bother with the +. I can get as close a shave with either of these, but I have to work harder with extended touch up to get a BBS with the +. I got there easier and faster this morning with he ++. My first impression of the ++ is it would be very hard to nick yourself with this if you are an experienced shaver, while it is nearly impossible to do with the original +. I'd still categorize the ++ as a mild razor but that's by feeling, it's a medium in terms of effectiveness, for sure.

My typical problem areas are my right neck and my left jawline, which is why I was going to use each of these twice, swapping sides, but the ++ cleaned up my neck so well and so fast, I won't bother.

Amazingly, even though the ++ is more efficient it is JUST AS COMFORTABLE! A liberal splash of The Veg and I got almost no burn on either side and I noticed NO DIFFERENCE between right and left sides of my face. I plan on using the 34C on the right tomorrow and if I don't miss the mark, I'll bet I'll feel The Veg quite nicely on the right. It's not a forgiving splash by any means.

This Henson AL13 razor head is a stunning development in DE shaving, IMNSHO. Shame they goofed it up with the ridiculously long handle, but this put an end to my experimenting with razors. This is my "rest of my life" razor for sure. I am simply not interested in trying any of the other uber-expensive magic razors folks rave about here. My search is ended.

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This Henson AL13 razor head is a stunning development in DE shaving, IMNSHO. Shame they goofed it up with the ridiculously long handle, but this put an end to my experimenting with razors. This is my "rest of my life" razor for sure. I am simply not interested in trying any of the other uber-expensive magic razors folks rave about here. My search is ended

Hold on, there is still the Henson +++ you haven’t tried:001_tt2:
 

JCinPA

The Lather Maestro
Hahahaha. Yep. I don't need it, though. After many years of experimenting I know I don't care for aggressive razors, and the ++ proves I do not need one. Plus it's titanium and over $200. No thanks. The AL13++ with the Edwin Jagger handle to fix Henson's handle mistake, and I'm done!

Tomorrow should be interesting. I think I'll find the ++ shaves as well or better then the 34C and The Veg won't light up the AL13 side of my face like I expect it to do on the 34C side. We shall see!
 
Hahahaha. Yep. I don't need it, though. After many years of experimenting I know I don't care for aggressive razors, and the ++ proves I do not need one. Plus it's titanium and over $200. No thanks. The AL13++ with the Edwin Jagger handle to fix Henson's handle mistake, and I'm done!

Tomorrow should be interesting. I think I'll find the ++ shaves as well or better then the 34C and The Veg won't light up the AL13 side of my face like I expect it to do on the 34C side. We shall see!

You can get the Henson aggressive in aluminum for the same price as the others. Just not from Henson, you can buy it from a 3rd party vendor. You may want to at some point. Collect 'em all! :)
 

JCinPA

The Lather Maestro
Nope, I'm not collecting them all, I already gave away the +. I understand the collecting bug, I just don't have it. The ++ is my lifetime razor, I may never (most likely won't) ever buy another razor again. I have a few historical razors so I guess I "collect" a little bit. But this is the end.
 
I've rotated between the 34C, Merkur Slant, DE 89, Gillette vintage Tech, Schick injectors of various vintages, and a few Gillette TTO including the Fatboy. However, far and away, the razor I kept coming back to as my daily driver was the 34C.

I rotate a lot of blades,

PAA Amber Aero Lite

Their handle, IMNSHO, however is a design defect I wish they'd address.
Very interesting to me how similar you and I are in our preferences until it gets to the Henson handle. The handle design was the big surprise to me with the Henson, as I had not heard much said about the handle specifically, and I thought that the Merkur 34HD handle was about perfect. I'm crazy about the Henson handle -- it's one of my favorite features of the razor. YMMV strikes again.

Your preferences history, and your comments, have me real curious about the Henson ++. But after experiencing the harshness (in my hands) of the Winning v2 I don't think that I'm curious enough to shell out the cash. I'm real happy now with the results I get from the Henson +, Merkur 34, and Progress with rotating them adding a nice variety.
 

JCinPA

The Lather Maestro
Well, so much for post holders. I cannot edit #2 any more.

Monday, July 1 morning shave. AL13++ on left Merkur 34C on right
  • Tabac original tallow soap
  • Gillette Super Platinum (blacks, India) first shave
  • Stirling tuxedo synthetic brush
  • Thayer's unscented WH
  • Pinaud Lilac Vegetal
Well, it's definitive. The AL13++ is my favorite razor by far. This shave also confirmed to me what a fantastic razor the Merkur 34C is, there is a reason it is such an enduring favorite. But in the end, the AL13++ won out.

Pretty much same equipment and two new blades, so first shave on all blades in the comparison. The 34C almost shaved as closely, and I know I could have shavd as close if I went at it a bit longer. It also would have been more uncomfortable if I did that. My right neck is slightly more telling than my left jawline which is why I used the Merkur there whereas I used the ++ there yesterday.

I did a "normal" everyday shave, like I did yesterday, no super concentrated effort or touching up. The 34C did not get my neck quite as close as the ++, although it was very good indeed. I'd give that side a 9.5 shave today versus a solid 10 for the ++ yesterday. Also, without a lot of touching up and struggling for that absolute BBS I did notice a little more sting on the right side this morning than the left. Not a lot, mind you, but noticeable nonetheless. The Veg tells all. Had I done a lot of touchup for that BBS shave with the 34C there would have also been more burn for sure.

IMO the AL13++ is my lifetime razor, I don't feel the need to experiment any longer, I don't feel the need for super-heavy handles (although I really don't like the ridiculously long AL13 handle), I don't need to get something in titanium, steel, or vibranium -- this shaves better than the 34C for me, the vintage Gillette Tech, my Schick injectors, all my favorite razors.

For any "Normal" shavers, if there is such a thing, I'd recommend the aluminum AL13++ without qualification. If you don't need an aggressive razor and do not have super sensitive skin--you like an EJ DE89 or Merkur 34C, and get almost effortless, close, comfortable shaves with them, I unequivocally recommend the AL13++. And the value for the money is unbeatable, and I state that as a categorical. If you like something more you probably paid $300 for it. Or you need an aggressive razor, those are the only shavers I've seen knock the Henson.

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For any "Normal" shavers, if there is such a thing, I'd recommend the aluminum AL13++ without qualification. If you don't need an aggressive razor and do not have super sensitive skin--you like an EJ DE89 or Merkur 34C, and get almost effortless, close, comfortable shaves with them, I unequivocally recommend the AL13++. And the value for the money is unbeatable, and I state that as a categorical. If you like something more you probably paid $300 for it. Or you need an aggressive razor, those are the only shavers I've seen knock the Henson.
Ok, so I'll share my own experience. I got a Henson + for my daughter. She tried it several times and said it cut almost no hair at all. I gave advice to try using a little bit of pressure (as recommended by Henson), but she still reported poor results. I tried it also and came to basically the same conclusion: For me, the Henson + is very inefficient (almost frustratingly so). To get what I consider to be even a socially acceptable shave requires more than three passes, leading to irritation.

I PIFfed that Henson and, for comparison, bought a ++ from the BST here. The difference was negligible to me: Still too inefficient. Sold it. Then I got a +++. The +++ actually provided enough efficiency to give me an acceptable shave in 3 passes; but for me, 3 passes is really pushing it in terms of irritation. I don't like the handle either, and the Henson somehow feels "cheap" in my hand, so I sold the +++ also.

Long story short: If the Henson works for anyone, that's great! Happy to hear it. They seem to have a number of fans. I provide a counterpoint to caution against the enthusiasm these razors seem to generate: Have appropriate expectations. For me, there are a number of razors that provide better shaves than the Henson for a lower or comparable price. For me the Henson definitely did not live up to the hype.

[I ended up getting my daughter a Parker TTO. She's still using it two years later and says it works better than the Henson.]
 

JCinPA

The Lather Maestro
I kind of agree with @StewB, as an experienced shaver, I can't see the rationale for the AL13+ at all. For those who use a DE 89 or 34C or similar, I think the ++ is superior. And I'm not a noob, been at this 13 years. Those who need more aggressive razors than those will likely NOT like it, the revolutionary head will not help overcome needing a more aggressive razor.

StewB, what is your daily driver razor? Is it more aggressive than a DE 89 or 34C? The Henson is not appropriate for anyone needing more than that, IMO. However, if those razors work for a shaver, I do not think this product is over-hyped at all. YMMV of course, but the vast majority of those in the medium-to-mild razor camp LOVE this thing (that would be my camp). If you need more than that the Henson is you your razor, but that is not a knock on the razor.

Frankly, though, I cannot see the reason for the existence of the AL13+. I just don't. Only a ++ or +++ make sense to me.
 
I have the cast metal R89 (same head design as EJ DE89). I would say that it's pretty "mild." For me it shaves better than the Henson.

I use a number of different razors. In the "mild" to "medium" range, I think a top budget choice is the brass Pearl Blaze. I use it with a gray Maggard handle (I don't care for the Blaze's stock handle), but I prefer it to the Henson.

In stainless steel, I still like and use the Yates Winning and Merica. For me, The Merica is really tough to beat in the mild to medium range. These are now a little more expensive than the aluminum Henson but perform better IMO.

For TTO razors, I like the Parker 87R (brass). Used it this morning: Really a good razor for the price.
 

JCinPA

The Lather Maestro
Yep, well the R89 is the DE89. I'm very surprised you don't prefer the Henson ++. It took me a week of shaving with it to get used to it, but maybe this is a YMMV thing.

After a couple weeks of shaving with the ++ I'd never change it out for the DE89. In fact, for years I used the 34C because I think it bested the R89/DE89, and the AL13++ just beat that.

I guess it really is a YMMV thing, depends on your face and whiskers and such. But given enough time to get used to it (maybe a week) I think most would come to the conclusion it is not over-hyped. Now the + is another matter, I really think they could have skipped that and just started with the ++, but I suppose for new shavers who are nervous it's a nice training wheels razor.
 
But given enough time to get used to it (maybe a week) I think most would come to the conclusion it is not over-hyped.
I am unsure of this conclusion, based on my personal experience. And I'm a fairly new DE user (only a couple years in). For sure the Henson is a great razor for some. It's just not an efficient razor that works well for me, particularly at its price point. IMO the Henson is unquestionably "over-hyped." Caveat emptor, as they say.
 
For me, purchasing a Henson was a mistake. End of story.
I even got two of them, + and +++
The problem is the well known issue with the "locked angle".
Sure, it's possible to shave this way, get a decent shave to, but to me there is no difference between disposable BIC plastic razors, and the Henson's as far as shaving experience goes. Well, except that the Henson looks good, and is nice to hold. But "edge-to-face-wise", the Henson simply lacks the attributes of a "real" DE razor.
Conclusion: I would choose/recommend the Merkur 34 any day over the Henson.
 
Yep, IMO the Henson needs a fair amount of pressure or it won't cut anything. The +++ is a little better in this regard. I think this encourages a bad habit in using more pressure than needed, leading to more potential irritation. (If the Henson is all you use and you're happy with it, then I guess that's not really a problem...)
 
This is my "rest of my life" razor for sure. I am simply not interested in trying any of the other uber-expensive magic razors folks rave about here. My search is ended.
I get such an amazing shave from the ++ also, and I wish I could say the same. I'm just too curious about many razors. I feel I'm in a horribly addicting infatuation phase. I can also get amazing shaves with CNC machined steel razors that have more traditional heads but I'm not near as consistent with them. Maybe I should just stop looking at anything related to wetshaving and be happy with what I have. How many people have said this before me? How many succeed?
 
I have used Muhle, Merkur, Fatip, Razorock,. Yaqi, all Gillette Techs except the hybrid, Gillette News LC & SC, Fatboy, Rocket, MEM, Lord, Star and Personna BB1.

The Henson ++ is better than them in every way.

I don't have to use excessive pressure, I have been using DE razors for 10 years so not a newbie.
My beard is old man grey wire.

I'm done looking for anything else, it seems that Henson for me at least have made the perfect razor.
 
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