Goatee with dandruff in mustache area

[Porcupop]

Didn't find anything on this on the Forum. I have dandruff in mustache area of my goatee. It doesn't matter what length I trim. Any hints of solution? Anybody else have same problem? I've seen other guys with the same problem. The best "solution" I've found is using an old toothbrush to brush it off. I'm interested to see what the Collective Wisdom of the B&B Forum has to say... Thanks!

 

[DFSDAILY]

You need to wash it the same as you do the hair on your head. When I see a guy with a beard and his shirt looks like he came in from a blizzard I want to yell at him to wash that mop please.

 

[skleice]

You need to wash it the same as you do the hair on your head. When I see a guy with a beard and his shirt looks like he came in from a blizzard I want to yell at him to wash that mop please.

It's not always this easy. I used to have a goatee and had this problem. I tried shampoo, face scrubs, moisturizers, combination of all of them, etc and nothing really worked (especially in winter). I am now clean shaven.

I'm sorry I have no solution to offer, cuz I understand the frustration.

 

[Porcupop]

You need to wash it the same as you do the hair on your head. When I see a guy with a beard and his shirt looks like he came in from a blizzard I want to yell at him to wash that mop please.

It's not a matter of cleanliness, sorry! Even trimmed with a clipper without a comb on it, the problem is there. That area gets washed at least as regularly as the rest of me! Maybe Skleice is right and shaving is the only solution!

 

[Seraphim]

Try massaging in some JoJoba oil every evening.

 

[Luminose]

Do you have dandruff or psoriasis? You can wash your facial hair with Head and Shoulders 2in1 shampoo as long as you're not super sensitive to Pyrithione zinc. Just get one for your skin type.

If you need a moisturizer I've tried dozens that my wife has bought over the years and the best and most gentle so far has been First Aid Beauty Ultra Repair Cream

 

[patrickmjett]

T-Gel by nutrigeana (however you spell it) works pretty well. Walmart also has one. Anything with tea tree oil as well. I have psoriasis and I can tell you that its very annoying and down right painful for me to have a beard and when I shave it off I almost always have leopard spots. If it is psoriasis there is almost nothing you can do to cure it. You can just ease it a little but the amount of exfoliation you need is just too much with a beard. Its very annoying.

 

[SuperChris]

I just use some of the head and shoulders I use while I am washing my hair. I also use a little bit of moisturizing conditioner as well. It seems to work for me, but everyone's skin is different.

 

[goatee]

i have never found a better product for skin than raw shea butter. make sure its raw, or unrefined.

 

[MrLara]

You can wash your facial hair with Head and Shoulders

i sometimes got some flakes in my goatee area, so i used some H&S on it and scrubbed it in with a small comb. haven't had a problem since.

 

[rebos]

Hey Porcupop,

Is the dandruff just in your mustache area and not the beard part?

I have this problem with my mustache, as well. It's quite annoying, as some of the others have mentioned, and as I'm sure you know.
I'm currently using a mixture of the above-mentioned suggestions.

I use head and shoulder in the mustache and rub jojoba oil into the mustache after showers. It works for roughly half a day and then the
problem re-occurs. It's especially bad in the Winter, when it's dry. I've meant to see a dermatologist, if only to find out what the problem
is, but I haven't gotten around to it yet.

Like skleice, I've tryed a bunch of different things and none of them have resulted in long term solutions.

I often end up going clean shaven so as to avoid it. It's annoying because I'd prefer to have a mustache.


I'll be paying close attention to this thread. Any suggestions are welcome!

 

[Shantytownbrown]

Sounds like a condition called seborrhea...(this is without pics tho...) pic 4 different (read: each with diff active ingredients) "dandruff" shampoos...and rotate them every 3 months, see how that goes, or you could just start with Selsun Blue and stick with it....that'd be one, H and S another, T gel a third, cant name a fourth off the top of my head...

 

[Luminose]

T-Gel by nutrigeana (however you spell it) works pretty well. Walmart also has one. Anything with tea tree oil as well. I have psoriasis and I can tell you that its very annoying and down right painful for me to have a beard and when I shave it off I almost always have leopard spots. If it is psoriasis there is almost nothing you can do to cure it. You can just ease it a little but the amount of exfoliation you need is just too much with a beard. Its very annoying.

T-Gel isn't bad if you can get over that coal tar smell lol.

I have psoriasis spots on my face if I get really dry or don't shave everyday.

Oddly I haven't had any show up since I started using MWF shaving soap.

Doctors or dermatologists can prescribe "Ketoconazole 2% Cream" for treatment of certain types of psoriasis. It's an antifungal so I'm not 100% sure how it helps with psoriasis being an immune system problem but it works well for some people. Most often steroids are used for psoriasis but you DO NOT want to use steriods on your face if you can at all help it, it can have bad results.

 

[Porcupop]

Rebos, yes, it's mostly in mustache area. Shantytownbrown in probably right in his "diagnosis": http://dermatology.about.com/cs/seborrhea/a/sebderm.htm. However, for anti-dandruff shampoos to work, you have to let them work for several minutes before you rinse. I'm not about to goop up with shampoo and wait: to me, that would be a worse pain in the butt than my minor problem...

Reading the article on seborrheic dermatitis, one could conclude that the application of oil will NOT make things better and that preventing the presence of oil in that area might be part of a solution. Seems like there's the possible yeast involvement. Seems like corticosteroids or anti-fungal creams might help.

Note: My first entry states that the research function didn't yield results on the B&B Forum. I used the word "dandruffs" instead of "dandruff". Excuse my French! So there are some other threads on this. Someone claims that using apple cider vinegar helps. Anti-fungal property?

To be continued...

 

[rebos]

Great. I'm staying tuned for further research findings. Here's the thread that I started a while back when I thought that exfoliation was the main problem.
I'm now almost certain that it's not strictly an issue concerning exfoliation, and I've also read that exfoliation on the face is often advised against. I can't recall
where I read that, but in any case it's true of my situation (sensitive skin).

It's knowing that the problem relates to fungus that makes me just want to shave the thing off . . .

I know that "with great mustaches comes great responsibility" but when there's fungus involved it almost seems like it just wasn't meant to be . . .

My question is: why is the mustache area so prone to this problem?

 

[Porcupop]

I’m « blessed » with occasional insomnia. I googled « why dandruff mustache area » and found tons of information. Here are a few links. I hope I’m not breaking any rules here…

http://www.fluther.com/25667/why-do-i-have-dry-skin-under-my-beard/ (Solutions offered by anyone willing to offer one&#8230
Clean with soap twice a day.
Clean with Head & Shoulder or Nizoral – leave 5 minutes before rinsing.
Clean with shampoo and conditioner.
Rub with dry towel.

http://www.wisegeek.com/how-can-i-get-rid-of-face-dandruff.htm (Similar popular forum.)
Solution = dandruff shampoo, tea-tree oil, vinegar, skin lotions.

http://www.drbaileyskincare.com/blog/whats-the-best-mens-skin-care-2/ (Apparently a dermatologist trying to sell her own line of medicated products. Interesting read regardless.)
Solution = her « Calming Zinc Soap ». « Calming Zinc soap is medicated with a full 2% pyrithione zinc (the maximum amount allowed) to treat dandruff […] »

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/000963.htm Good stuff.
Solution = over-the-counter or prescription shampoo.

http://www.aad.org/skin-conditions/...ic-dermatitis-diagnosis-treatment-and-outcome
Solution = dandruff shampoo and/or medicated creams.

http://www.mustachesummer.com/likket/ (Supposedly a doctor. Calls himself a Certified Mustache Therapist. I kid you not!)
Solution = dandruff shampoo or tea-tree oil.

Read more articles. Most come down to this : use dandruff shampoo and take the couple minutes it takes to let it work. That's kind of what a few guys have written here already. Will have to think about that...

I hope this helps!

 

[rebos]

Nice sleuthing Porcupop.

Might be best to experiment with the 4 different kinds of anti-dandruff shampoos, as suggested above.

Also, a number of sources recommend Tea Tree oil, so maybe Tea Tree shampoos and conditioners will help out.

There is probably something to be said for leave-in conditioners and special beard shampoos like Jenulence , as well.

I'll keep trying things and posting back as time allows. I'd prefer to keep the mustache around even if it means taking
the advice from a certified mustache therapist.

 

[Porcupop]

My hang up with the shampoos is that I have the same problem if I trim almost at skin level. It seems to me that at that point, it's pointless to even think shampoo and conditioner, let alone special beard shampoo since there's hardly anything left to call a beard! If you get better, you'll have the bonus of being able to tell people that it's all because of a CTM!!! Ha!

 

[Gandalf]

You might try oiling it from the inside with good food oils. May I recommend Udo Erasmus' nice blend rich with Omega-3? Plus ... beware that it might be that not all white stuff falling out of your beard is dandruff; dried cheese, milk etc might also be to blame.

 

[Porcupop]

You might try oiling it from the inside with good food oils. May I recommend Udo Erasmus' nice blend rich with Omega-3? Plus ... beware that it might be that not all white stuff falling out of your beard is dandruff; dried cheese, milk etc might also be to blame.

Gandalf, the idea to oil from inside is interesting. It seems to me that if the lack of oil was from the inside, it would be all over the body and not just above the upper lip. Something to think about anyway. As far as the dried milk products, I can only smile! I am right handed and the problem is worse on the left, maybe I need to fine tune my aim when eating dairy... Old age?!