So I found a z1 (1954) 40's style super speed and picked it up, then looked it up on the shave wiki and the only z(1954) ss were z3/4 the tv specials, any info would help.
Gillette expert, please help Z1 40's style super speed
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It is what you call a flare tip. Hang in to it. They are not that common. You have found a good one. What type if shape is it in? Can you post some pics?
It is not a tv special. Those were made in the second half of 54. Yours was made I. The first quarter of 54. You have one of ghe first flare tips. Good find!
Josh
It is not a tv special. Those were made in the second half of 54. Yours was made I. The first quarter of 54. You have one of ghe first flare tips. Good find!
Josh
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So it's definitely 40s-style rather than flare-tip, and definitely Z-1? Maybe that's new information, and there were some non-tv 1954 super speeds. I wouldn't be too surprised. Achim might come along with more information.
You've probably already looked at Achim's site, but here is a picture of the TV Special for comparison: http://mr-razor.com/Rasierer/One-Piece solid guard bar/1954 TV Super-Speed.jpg. I think it's only distinguished from other 40s-style super speeds by its case (vs the later TV Special, which had special knurling).
You've probably already looked at Achim's site, but here is a picture of the TV Special for comparison: http://mr-razor.com/Rasierer/One-Piece solid guard bar/1954 TV Super-Speed.jpg. I think it's only distinguished from other 40s-style super speeds by its case (vs the later TV Special, which had special knurling).
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It is Not a flare tip ss. It is a 40's ss. It looks the same as achims(sp) but the marks are Z1? I was curious because there were no 40's ss with z1 as the date code.
How very ineresting.
This will call for more study.
Josh
This will call for more study.
Josh
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If it helps, this razor had no case, I says, pat nos on pkg, under the doors, then handle up, reg us pat off, z 1, gillette made in USA.
A picture tells a thousand words.
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Anymore info would help, I am cleaning the razor a I type and will try to post some pics.
They're out there, 40s style Z1 SuperSpeeds.
Pic is hard to read the date code number, sorry, but here is one:
Pic is hard to read the date code number, sorry, but here is one:
1954 was a crossover year when Gillette converted from '40's style to flair tip and again '40's style for the TV Special. I have a Z1 '40's style and also a Z3 flair tip and '40's style TV special. The more Super Speeds you find the more likely you are to see these types of mixed razors and date codes. I would think very few companies change to new models exactly on January 1st.
Len
Thanks - http://wiki.badgerandblade.com/index.php/US_Gillette_Dating_Information has been updated.
I'd appreciate it if someone knowledgeable could check the dates for the Knack. The wiki says 1966-1972 (http://wiki.badgerandblade.com/index.php/Knack) but the timeline page used to show it continuing through 1976. I adopted the 1972 end date for this revision, but I would appreciate correction.
I'd appreciate it if someone knowledgeable could check the dates for the Knack. The wiki says 1966-1972 (http://wiki.badgerandblade.com/index.php/Knack) but the timeline page used to show it continuing through 1976. I adopted the 1972 end date for this revision, but I would appreciate correction.
Yes, you're right about the crossover. You have a Z1 '40's style and I have a Z1 flare tip.
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