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Newbie goes vintage: My first vintage Gillette experience

Happy Tuesday, although it feels like monday thanks to Canadian Thanksgiving 😁

Some of you may recognize me from the BORG and one and done club threads.

A little backstory as I'm still a bit new to the forum: February of this year I took the plunge and bought a Henson al-13 as my first safety razor, only ever used cartridge and disposables before. I immediately found I was getting better shaves and got used to the Henson pretty quick, but I guess my collector mentality crept in and I wanted to try some different options, which led me to the Razorock Game changer.

the GC has been the main razor in my stable, especially now that I got a lighter handle for it, but old collector brain decided to get feisty again and started pointing me into TTO land. I was strongly considering a yaqi Monarch (PTO) and a few other cheaper modern options but then I started thinking about vintage Gillette. As a musician, I'm used to the term vintage meaning " sell a kidney and your first born to afford a down payment..." But I was pleasantly surprised after spending a few minutes on eBay that this not usually the case with razors 😁.

I lost a few auctions, but ended up finding a decent price on a flare tip super speed from 1960 as a "buy it now". It was 50 bucks Canadian shipped to me (around 35 USD) razor only has a little spot of plating loss on the center bar and some scratches on the bottom of the handle, but the rest is super duper NOS level clean.

received the package on Saturday morning, just in time to try a first shave with it! I've now had 3 shaves with it and it's quickly becoming a favourite.

This thing is very mild but still quite efficient, I've been been able to shave 2 days in a row with it without irritation which almost never happens for me. In my collection it's kind of in the middle between my Henson and GC in terms of aggression, a little more efficient than henson, but not quite as much as the GC, it's also heavier than the Henson but about half an ounce lighter than my GC set up.

my only cons so far are pretty basic: 1. Blade tabs are exposed, I didn't realize this on my first shave, but luckily didn't get any scratches. The tabs do help to make sure the alignment is correct when closing the door though. 2. Not the best lather channels, while I didn't find any full on clogging, I did notice I had to rinse a bit more often than I'm used to, also did a bit of a moustache trim with it, and it didn't have a super easy time going through longer hair. Still got it done though.

All in all, I'm happy I went with this piece of history instead of another more modern razor. Im sure there are plenty of great TTO razors I could have purchased brand new, some for less than this, but going back to the roots had much more appeal to me, and still didn't break the bank!

Now I'm waiting for a 64 slim adjustable that I found in very good shape with original plastic case. I have a feeling my modern razors may need a new home soon 😋.

I thought I would share this experience for any other new wet-shavers considering the vintage market. Gillette mass produced millions of these back in the day, so there's no shortage, they all keep getting passed around,and as long as you find one in good shape it's still going to be a great shave. it's a testament to build quality that I can pick up something more than twice my own age and it still works 100% as intended.
 

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Dull yet interesting
Welcome to the wonderful world of vintage Gillette safety razors. :thumbsup:
They're wonderful shaving tools, brilliantly engineered and beautifully manufactured.
Here are four of my six vintage Super Speeds ...

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Welcome to Vintage Land!

Beware, it's addictive. I've been DE shaving for a number of years, but I only got my first vintage Gillettes last year (a pair of Techs). Now I've got over 30. Yikes!

Wait till you get to the prewar Gillettes like the Old Type, NEW, and open-comb TTOs (Aristocrat gen 1, Senator, Sheraton). Those are a whole other world: mid-aggressive but still so smooth. My 1934 Aristocrat is probably the best razor I own.

Almost any vintage Gillette model can be found relatively cheap if you can live with no display case and a worn finish. I prefer the patina, myself. A razor's life well-lived.

The only exceptions are a few of the rarer ones like the Toggle and Red Dot variants of the Fatboy adjustable, as well as the very first Gillette, the 1903-05 Double Ring. Those often go for over $1000.
 
ended up finding a decent price on a flare tip super speed

Now I'm waiting for a 64 slim adjustable that I found in very good shape with original plastic case. I have a feeling my modern razors may need a new home soon
Both are excellent vintage razors. Between the two I prefer the slim. Though you might want to keep the modern razors for variety.

my only cons so far are pretty basic: 1. Blade tabs are exposed
Personally I prefer having exposed blade tabs. For one it makes changing the blade easier in my experience. And for two it does make alignment easier as you mentioned. All but one of the razors I own have exposed tabs. In the roughly 6 years I’ve been shaving with DE razors I haven’t had any problems with cutting or nicking myself with the tabs except maybe when I was first starting (the first month or so)
 
Personally I prefer having exposed blade tabs. For one it makes changing the blade easier in my experience. And for two it does make alignment easier as you mentioned. All but one of the razors I own have exposed tabs. In the roughly 6 years I’ve been shaving with DE razors I haven’t had any problems with cutting or nicking myself with the tabs except maybe when I was first starting (the first month or so)
Yea it's definitely not a deal breaker, just caught me by surprise, both my Henson and GC have the tabs covered so it's just something new for me to get used to. I think I did give myself a little nick from the tab on my chin while I was trying to line up my moustache the other day, now that I'm aware of them I'm being a little more cautious.

Both are excellent vintage razors. Between the two I prefer the slim. Though you might want to keep the modern razors for variety.
Today I went back to my GC for the first time since I got the super speed, it certainly makes much quicker work of a 2 day growth, and I still really love using this razor. I think I like my gamechanger for multiday growth and the super speed for 1 day growth right now, but I'm really excited for the slim, I have yet to try any adjustable razor so I'm really intrigued by the idea of using different settings for different passes or different areas of the face. The Henson is the one I think I will part with though, I think it's a combo of the light weight and the fixed angle, I don't like the draggy feeling I get from the fixed angle, and because it's so light I feel like I always end up using too much pressure.
 
The Henson is the one I think I will part with though, I think it's a combo of the light weight and the fixed angle, I don't like the draggy feeling I get from the fixed angle, and because it's so light I feel like I always end up using too much pressure.
I can’t speak to the fixed angle situation. I have a Soluna that is super light. It definitely needs less pressure than the other razors that I have including the aluminum tech I have
 
Got my slim adjustable a couple days ago, first shave this morning was great! this showed up in even better shape than my flare tip superspeed, and with the original plastic box! The plastic definitely looks it's age, but the razor looks almost new. I gave it a little toothbrush scrub and added a little mineral oil to the moving parts. after the clean and dry, i looked real hard for any brassing or plating loss, and could only see a very small amount of brass showing on the inside of the end tab on one side of the head. I picked up some cape cod polishing cloths for future maintenance but the thing literally shines in it's current condition so no need for a polish at all.

Now for the shave, this was my first time using any kind of adjustable razor, so i wanted to see how much range there is in the adjustments, but also was too scared to go all the way to max. Loaded a fresh vokshod blade, whipped up my prorasso white lather, and decided to start on setting 6. yesterday i trimmed my month-old moustache down to 2mm with an electric and it was looking kind of uneven, so i figured i might as well take off the stache completely while putting the slim through it's paces. Setting 6 went through that like a hot knife through butter, so i figured i'd keep that setting for the first pass. to compare to my modern razors, setting 6 felt similar to my Razorock game changer .76p but more aggressive (maybe closer to the .84p which i don't have). first pass was already pretty close, but not without a little blade feel, so i dialed it down to 4 for pass 2. 4 felt comparable to my flare tip: very smooth but a little more aggressive (maybe closer to a red tip, which i don't have :p). After that pass i could have stopped, but still had some light touch ups to do, so i cranked it down to setting 2 and went for a third pass. setting 2 may be the most mild shave i've ever had, I had to check my angle a lot because i could barely feel anything happening, but once i dialed it in, it made for a great buffing pass and a great finish to the shave.

So first impressions: the range on this thing is pretty wild! I had a preconceived notion that there wouldn't be that noticeable of a difference, but between the 3 settings i tried, it did really feel like 3 different razors. 6 seemed maybe a little too high for my current level of growth, but i could see it being useful for times when i go a little longer without shaving. 2 probably would have been great for me as a teenager, but i think it's a bit too mild for me now (34 now) it felt even more mild than my henson tbh. 4 seemed to be a nice sweet spot, i could see myself using that for quick 1 passers or for the occasions when i shave multiple days in a row.

The weight and handle length feel pretty much ideal to me, i like the little extra length compared to the superspeed, and i don't feel like it's too heavy or too light, balances and grips super well in my hand. The "slim" head is still a little bulkier than my henson or GC, but had no problem getting under the nose with it and the higher settings seem like they would be great for precise line-ups.

This one ended up costing me a little more, i think due to the great condition and the inclusion of the original box, so it was 80 CAD (around 55-60 USD). The only other true on-the-fly adjustables (not counting plate system adjustable) i've seen around that price point or less are just essentially knock offs of this design made of cheaper materials overseas, so i still think i won in this case :p. I honestly feel that this could be the only razor i need, fully understand the adjustable hype now haha. I don't think i'm gonna sell off the rest of my collection just yet ;) but i look forward to more shaves with the slim and i can already see it winning the reach test over my others.

In hindsight, my experience with both the superspeed and this slim have made me wish i looked into the vintage safety razor market first before buying a "new" razor, so that's part of the reason i wanted to make this thread. I'm sure many new wetshavers, like me, made the choice on their first safety razor based on being bombarded with social media ads for henson, rockwell and the like. Don't get me wrong, henson and rockwell still make great razors, and it's great they are getting more people to switch over from cartridge razors, but there's an interesting disconnect in some of the marketing. A big part of the general safety razor pitch is "no plastic parts, everything is recyclable and can last forever!" but how is buying a brand new product contributing to this, when you could hop on to ebay and get a razor that's already lived a lifetime and is still performing like day 1 for a fraction of what a brand new piece will cost you? I know it's all marketing and i would never shame a company for trying to sell their product, but it's kind of interesting how much the marketing contradicts itself when you really pay attention ;) .
 
I too am new to the Wet Shave world, and I got some Gillette Vintages to try: 1904 (earliest), 1924 (father born), 1926 (mother born), 1934 (first TTO), 1948 (post war), 1954 (my birth year), 1960 (Fatboy). Which of these have you found to shave well?
 
I too am new to the Wet Shave world, and I got some Gillette Vintages to try: 1904 (earliest), 1924 (father born), 1926 (mother born), 1934 (first TTO), 1948 (post war), 1954 (my birth year), 1960 (Fatboy). Which of these have you found to shave well?
Sounds like a nice collection! Sadly I'm too young to get one from my birth year (1990) but I have been considering looking for something from '52 because that's my mom's birth year :p. The only vintage razors I've tried so far are the slim and superspeed pictured above, both are very good shavers. I have been gravitating to the slim mostly because I like the longer handle and Im really enjoying the adjustability a lot. The SS is a little bit milder than I'm used to, but it is a super smooth shave, great for a quick daily shave if you only have a day of growth, I think I did like a 4 pass shave with it at one point still with no irritation lol. Yesterday I shaved off 4 days growth with the slim at settings 7 and 5 and I think this may be the first time I experienced true BBS. I guess I'm still in a bit of a honeymoon period with the slim since it's my most recent acquisition, but it's hard to go back to non adjustable now!
 
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