Coticule not giving shaving edge

[bad-bryce]

Hi Gents,

Like it says above I am unable to get a shaving edge of a my coticule. I have a KROPP razor that only needed a touch up because Larry from Whipped dog put a great edge on it. I made sure i lapped my stone with my 325/1200 duo sharp stone. I finished with the 1200 side. Created a light slurry super light, and nice light X-strokes about 15-20 laps. After with just water with refreshing the water a lot, 15 strokes. Before it would catch and pop hair but not nothing not HHT at all. Before it would be a HHT1-2.

Do your coticules polish your bevel and spine. Mine does not, I can see the scratches it makes.

Any ideas because I have been able to use my straight for month because I cannot get the stone to work for me and really leaning towards selling it and going synthetic.

 

[life2short1971]

Using water only only hone on the coticule with the razor only resting on the top. No pressure from your hands at all.Rinse top of stone good every 10-20 strokes. Do this for 100 perfect strokes and tell me what happens.

 

[global_dev]

Don't give up just yet.. It takes a couple tries, including failures and successes to know a particular coticule.. Heed the words of your Sig and show her a good time.

 

[Relentless]

Also, to add Bart's maintenance guide.

If the edge just is not coming back, you could always put a piece of tape on the spine and finish a unicot edge.

 

[bad-bryce]

I will try the 100 laps, but I just do not understand how it would become duller and not sharper. I am using ultra light pressure. Just enough to keep the blade on the coti and nothing more.

 

[life2short1971]

Coticules can be tricky to learn. They are each a little different and I have been through what you are experiencing now.

 

[gooser]

interested to hear your results as i have a coticule on the way and have never used any natural stone yet ... have you tried to shave with it at all or just the HHT ? none of my razors pass a HHT for me but they all shave like a dream

 

[Kentos]

Did you strop it up?

 

[life2short1971]

When using slurry to hone on your coticule the slurry should be no thicker than milk as well.I found a pic of your stone and I have an idea that is a very slow one. I would not give up on naturals but maybe try a different coticule if you don't find success with that one.

 

[bad-bryce]

I once did a shave test and was really terrible. Hurt like hell. I do have a thick beard and sort of sensitive skin. If it does not pass HHT then I know it is not going near my face.

 

[smalltank]

the main idea is let the weight of the razor "glide" on the surface..I use oil which helps with the "gliding" of the razor..mineral oil also works fine...

 

[bad-bryce]

I did strop it and no improvement.

 

[bad-bryce]

life2short1971,

As much I would love to buy another coticule, money is a little on the low side. That is why i mentioned before I would need to sell this coti to get something different.

When using slurry to hone on your coticule the slurry should be no thicker than milk as well.I found a pic of your stone and I have an idea that is a very slow one. I would not give up on naturals but maybe try a different coticule if you don't find success with that one.

 

[Relentless]

It might help to check the edge with magnification after each set, just to get an idea what seems to be working on the stone. Granted that a visual will not show the keenness, but it can give you an indicator of progress. I honed my first razor, on a new La Grise, on Sunday and I couldn't even tell you if it was fast or slow. Took me 60 minutes of very close and careful work. Now that I have a general idea of what did seem to work, I can take note of the exact process that may be needed during future honing.

If you have to go in blind; go in carefully.

 

[Disburden]

I strongly recommend you use unicot until you are comfortable with honing and your stone.

See how that does.

 

[Gamma]

Was the razor honed on tape originally?

 

[Neurotopia]

Was the razor honed on tape originally?

Boom goes the dynamite.

HHT and cotis don't always have much to do with each other. I never even bother. Does your razor undercut the slurry and does the slurry run up the full length of the blade when you hone? If not, do more strokes. I refresh with 15 half strokes on water, then another 30-45 at least of full passes.

Make sure you hit the linen for 60 strokes after the coti. Then strop.

 

[bad-bryce]

Okay this morning I did what life2short... told me to do. 100 x strokes with only water. I some leg hair popping mid way, did 30 Xs with oil, 60 linen 60 leather and seemed to improve the popping. Going to try tomorrow morning and see what happens.

 

[gary haywood]

it realy does take a little patients and time . I wouldn't give up . you may have same problems with other hones. many of us including my self used pasted strop while grasping the coticule . Just to get the keenness right up there.. I found ti rasoir pate on cloth hanging strop worked atreat.. i'm with you on the hht it has to be good to get a good shave of coticule . any thing below a 3 is no good for me any thing above is good a solid four is simply spot on . just keep at it and before you no it you will discover the coticule feel on your face .regards gary

 

[Doc226]

Another suggestion is to send the stone with someone with experience using coticules and see if they can get a shave worthy edge.