Beginners se razor

[Jackp93]

Hi all

I’ve had a couple of attempts at shaving with my ever ready 1924 but both times end up nicking my face half a dozen times. I want to continue with the se but what would be the best beginner razor. I’ve heard that the cream plastic handle ever ready are a bit gentler (sorry can’t remember the proper term).

Hope it makes sense and thanks in advance

Jack

 

[The Blackadder]

Does it have to be vintage? The Leaf Twig is my best shaver, and that beats my four double edge razors

 

[sarimento1]

Welcome to B&B, Sir Jackp93!
You're most brave to start your journey with that razor and Gem blades!
You can solve the issues with prep, shave angle and simply experience!
We all have gone through it!
And, rather than moving to a different single edge razor, let me suggest a milder double edge, such as a Gillette Tech or similar!
In any case, take your time, gain experience and you'll be having smooth, blood-free shaves in no time!

 

[Multum in parvo]

Gem style razors work only very shallow (riding the cap) so you can’t use your regular DE starting angle. Which blades are you using? They should be modern PTFE coated stainless ones for starting out.

Easiest to start SE would be an Injector for me.

 

[thombrogan]

I believe you are referring to the GEM Featherweight. Here‘s a photo I found on the internet:


Though there’s also The Triceratops by @SlimGem


Whichever you mean, I believe either can be gentler than the Ever-Ready 1924. Or need a lot of extra kinetic energy to match the 1924’s injury potential.

While I have, use, enjoy, and recommend The Triceratops – it looks like a dinosaur and, therefore, is baby – you can get comfortable, close shaves using an Ever-Ready 1924 without needing a transfusion or skin graft.

1. Assuming you’re using too much pressure. You’ll always need enough pressure for the contours of your 1924’s blade to contact your whiskers, but the amount of pressure that’s required may be a lot less than imagined (as we all hold our 1924 in a dominant appendage – some of us calling it a “Shovel Head” as visions of joyful shaves dance in our synapses – and ponder optimal shaving pressure).

2. Da blades! Are you using GEM-style brands such as Personna, Accutec, or PAL? It’s often recommended to get the PTFE-coated stainless GEM-style blades from Personna (now Accutec who made the blades for Personna). I think they’re pricy as foretold, but haven’t yet found the off-brand that’ll break their monopoly. I can tell you it’s not stainless GEM-style blades from Foshio. The box I bought was terrible for shaving and terrible for scraping (but they were comfortable while failing to unscruff my face…)

3. The angle. If you’ve read vintage ad-copy from Ever-Ready or just random shave junkies on the internet, it’s always “30° if you please.” With that and the folks using GEM-brand Micromatic razors saying to raise the back of the razor off one’s face until it sounds like buttering toast when shaving, there’s a tendency to use an angle steeper than one is accustomed and it’s very easy to lawn-dart the edge into one’s skin at such angle (especially going ATG). Place the top of the razor on your skin and don’t let your hand or its weight indent your skin. Tilt the back of your razor off your skin until the blade’s edge barely catches your whiskers and it should work gooder.

Wishing you increased comfort and joy in your Happy Razor Fun Time experiences.

 

[cryhavoc]

The GEM Contour is very mild, I find it tough to get a DFS with but will serve you better than the 1924. I would suggest a GEM 1912, pretty easy to get good shaves with.

As stated above, the shave angle is key with a GEM style razor, much different than a DE razor.

 

[Old Hippie]

I’ve had a couple of attempts at shaving with my ever ready 1924 but both times end up nicking my face half a dozen times.

Ever Ready razors in general have always had a bit of a rep for being more aggressive than Gem-branded razors. One hears the Shovel Head is particularly acute in that regard. That said, I have an Ever Ready 1914, the "Little Lather Catcher" and it's a great little Gem-format razor. If you can find one of those...

I want to continue with the se but what would be the best beginner razor.

It's truth or seems like it that one can find milder razors in Gem format than in AC format. Perhaps the mildest AC singe-edge is the ATT X1 if you can find one. With a 0.55mm gap it's intended to be super mild. Next up the line is the RazoRock Hawk V3. I found them (both the SB and OC versions) to be a bit more than I wanted but they are marketed as an AC "starter" razor. I used to have a few skin tags on my neck; shaving twice with the Hawk V3OC got rid of all of them. The OC plate they use is the "Jaws" pattern with wide tooth spacing. Goes through rather than over minor skin blemishes.

In Gem-format there are some options. The Phoenix Artisan Accoutrements Starling V2 is still made, I think. Although it's an aluminum razor, it's a very nice Gem-format shaver. I like the OC version better than the SB version. I'm not going to classify the Wolfman WR3 as a "beginner" razor, but I find that the 0.35mm OC version is probably the best Gem-format razor I've ever used bar none.

In the vintage razors, you'll likely find milder razors branded Gem than Ever Ready. The Gem Clog-Pruf is supposedly mild. I had one for a while but it was NOS when I got it and I never used it. I've got a Gem Jr. Bar lathercatcher, but don't recommend that for a daily driver. The Gem Micromatic Open Comb (MMOC) is considered a fairly aggressive razor, which I can attest as an owner of one.

Many like the Gem 1912 pattern. They're quite common and I've had a few of them. Mostly they're too mild for me, but that's me. They may be perfect for you. Prices are going up a little, but the Gem 1912 used to be about the cheapest vintage Gem one could find. I don't think I've ever paid more than $3.00 for one, and some guys remember getting them tossed in for free when buying another razor.

Those are some of the options. Somewhere in there you ought to find something congenial to you.

O.H.

 

[Captain Howdy]

Gem 1912, Ever-Ready version with a hexagonal handle.

 

[Saloogie]

Being that you're using a 100 year old razor, make sure the blade sits evenly on the stops and that the bar is straight and the cover is tight and locking down against the blade. Good blade alignment is essential to a good clean shave.There's no way you should be nicking yourself up like that due to bad technique alone. Something else must be up.

Most of these old razors have held up extremely well, but it's worth giving it a look over. Good luck!

 

[Ron R]

Gem made some fantastic SE razors and I still enjoy all of mine, make sure to use a 3 facet Gem Personna SS PTFE blade, they are sharp and smooth out nicely.
If you like a smooth modern 50mm AC type razor I like the Yaqi Romulus 316SSP seems to work well for my shaving needs. I like the Kai Captain titian mild 50mm blade works well with that razor.
Schick makes a great SE also and the E series type work well and G types are similar and slightly milder according to folks.
Make sure to use a new blade to have a decent shave, Some folks like the Schick blades in the yellow package of 7 can be bought on Amazon. They work well and are sharp and smooth, light touch is a must until mastered for any SE razor.

Schick injectors - A comprehensive guide

After I've spent the last few months recollecting pieces of information on the Gem style SE razors I have to come out of the closet and say I get my better shaves from an I2 Hydromagic Eversharp injector out of the +40 razors in my collection. There was no need to compile another chart due to...

www.badgerandblade.com

(Here is a old archived photo of Common Gem razors when I was learning how to use them properly and what I thought how they performed!)

Have some great shaves!

 

[sidpost]

A classic Schick Injector is super easy to use. The Yaqi Excalibur is is cheap (~$15) and uses AC blades is a great option for many but, I do like the stainless Romulus more.

 

[shave/brush]

I believe the Leaf Twig would be a great choice for you. Smooth and close.

 

[Lockback]

Does it have to be vintage? The Leaf Twig is my best shaver, and that beats my four double edge razors

I concur with this opinion. If you're not tied to vintage, give the Leaf Twig or Thorn a shot. I doubt you'd be disappointed. Simply great razors.

 

[NorthernSoul]

You'll need to choose your blade format, such as GEM, injector, AC, half DE blade, etc.

If you want to continue with GEM format, make sure you're using the blades made for shaving instead of utility knives. Best would be the Personna PTFE 3-facet blades. Milder razors using this blade might be the GEM Featherweight, Push-button or 1912 (aka Junior).

Injectors are very easy to shave with. A vintage Schick model G, for instance. Get good blades, such as the Chinese-made Schick blades.

Half-DE blade razors use very common, inexpensive DE blades split in half. Parker SoloEdge and Leaf Thorn would be solid choices. The SoloEdge costs around $35-40 and may include a pack of 100 Parker blades.

AC razors I can't help much with, but there's quite a lot of info on the forum about them.

 

[Quaznoid]

No-brainer: Schick injector. Effortless, no technique required, virtually impossible to not get a great shave. No half blade nonsense. Get an E, G or J model and use only Chinese Schick blades (“Chicks”) in the yellow package. IMHO these are the best shaving tools in the world.

 

[JCinPA]

^^^^^^^ What he said. It's practically foolproof. It's what my grandfather got for me to teach me to shave when I was a teen (my dad was an electric guy his entire life, Gramps used a Fatboy Adjustable, but felt this was a "training wheels" razor for me. He wasn't wrong!). You can fiddle with other stuff later, but now it sounds like you just want to start getting good comfortable shaves.

The Shick L1 razors are available all over eBay for $15-20. And as @Quaznoid said, the Chick blades (Amazon) are fine.

 

[Marco]

^^^^^^^ What he said. It's practically foolproof. It's what my grandfather got for me to teach me to shave when I was a teen (my dad was an electric guy his entire life). You can fiddle with other stuff later, but now it sounds like you just want to start getting good comfortable shaves.

The Shick L1 razors are available all over eBay for $15-20. And as @Quaznoid said, the Chick blades (Amazon) are fine.

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[JCinPA]

Well, I'll be darned, they are still made! Chinese knock-off for sure, but looks legit.

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[JCinPA]

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[Marco]

@Marco Hello, my friend! I'm doing well, sir, except for this heat wave. My wife is visiting the Philippines right now and her weather and mine are identical!

I'll send you a PM

And my family and I are coming to the US in a few days!