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Aristocrat #66 anatomy lesson

A bizarre and disconcerting thing happened to me last week: my #66 Aristocrat fell apart in my hands! I had just finished shaving and had loosened up the razor to run some warm water around the blade. Suddenly, this precious, shiny object, which, like all of my vintage Gillettes, I had come to think of as a paragon of solidity – almost immortality – turned into a pathetic, useless pile of metal junk. Very odd!

The only consolation (and it’s a scant one) is a peek at the anatomy of the #66, which is usually hidden from sight since this is one of the Aristocrats that does not have an exposed assembly screw.

As with all TTO razors, turning the knob raises and lowers the upper part of the head, which forces the doors to open and close. British Gillettes differ from American ones in that the knob travels up and down the handle, and it does so as a left-handed screw. The photos show how this is implemented. The motion is transmitted via two threaded pieces, the smaller (right-handed, with a pitch of 31 threads per inch) screws into the larger one (which is one with the knob and screws into the body of the handle with a left-handed motion, 24 threads per inch). In this configuration, the motions of the two screws combine. Thus, the total travel of 0.22 inches is achieved with just a little over three full turns of the knob. The choice of a left-handed motion for the knob appears to be based on esthetic reasons (the gap between knob and handle is visible when the razor is closed). They could have made the other choice, but then the inner thread would need to be left-handed. In the American system, tightening the doors is naturally linked to a clockwise motion of the knob, requiring a single right-handed thread inside.

(Should I repeat that?)

So what went wrong with my #66? Well, the top threaded pin has to be connected to the moving part of the head (the fixed part is crimped to the handle). This is done with a couple of rivets (I’m not 100% sure about this, but I tried to show it on the photo). The pin sheared at the lower rivet. This is clearly the weak point of the whole design, for two reasons: it looks like pin and rivet were stamped during assembly (this putting stress into the metal), plus the two rivets are in series which is dumb because it does not make the structure stronger than a single rivet. (I’m no engineer, so I could be wrong about that last point.) Anyway, seems to me that a single pin would have been a better fastening method. There would be no need for crimping or threading, since the whole assembly is inside the handle, with no place to go for the hypothetical pin. Too late now.

All of the innards of the #66 are shiny silver, but I dug into the broken pin with a Swiss file to reveal a gold/yellow sheen. So I conclude that it’s plated brass.

I have thought about ways of fixing my razor but, short of exotic welding schemes, I don’ t think it can be done. Anybody got some ideas?
 
horror.

That does look done, doesn't it? And in the 2nd pic, are those two different, still functioning razors?

-jim
 
A jeweler could fix it. The process is called silver soldering in the US. That's a misnomer, as it is actually brazing using a silver-bearing filler rod. Brazing is very strong.
 
A jeweler could fix it. The process is called silver soldering in the US. That's a misnomer, as it is actually brazing using a silver-bearing filler rod. Brazing is very strong.

I agree a jeweler or a qualified gunsmith could fix that. If you have a local smith that works on double barrel shotguns or the fine old English double rifles local to you I would try there. If they can silver soldier two barrels together and have them stand up to recoil then soldiering that fine old razor back together would be a snap. Well in my opinion anyway.
 
One of my 66's comes apart in much the same way, but can be screwed together by placing pressure on the head while tightening. I'm not certain how to fix it.

While the British Gillette TTO's have smoother movements, it seems that the American mechanism's are more robust. I've never had this issue with my American Gillette TTO's.

Regards,
 
Looks like a tensile failure of the pull down rod. I would guess the strength is pretty much limited to the bottom rivet area, and the upper rivet is there to keep the cross bar perpendicular so the blade is drawn down evenly. If you choose to silver braze the joint you will have to ensure the cross is square to the rod. I have a razor that is failing in a similar way. The cross bar does not pull down evenly, but can be squared by pushing manually with fingers. It has just enough friction so as not to be "self centering" so is a pain. If you don't want to try the brazing method you could contact Cooncat Bob about making a new pull down rod. It looks to be a right hand thread, and may be a common thread size. It would have to be drilled and pinned when absolutely square for proper function. If fixed by silver brazing you couldn't build up too much metal on the joint or it wouldn't fit back into the bore. It looks like a nice razor and would probably be worth some effort to extend it's life another 50 years.
Good luck,
Russ
 
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If you don't want to try the brazing method you could [...] mak[e] a new pull down rod. It looks to be a right hand thread, and may be a common thread size. It would have to be drilled and pinned when absolutely square for proper function.
Russ

Russ,

Great suggestion. I went back and measured the broken threaded pin with a micrometer. It sure looks like it could be a standard 10-32 size. So I might be able to replace it. Cutting a slot in the end would be tricky but I guess I could manage, somehow. Brass, I suppose, would be easiest. The only trouble is, living in Europe, I have no access to SAE screws or threaded round stock. I don' t suppose anyone out there would be willing to mail me a piece? I would be happy to pay for shipping and send some super fine Gillette Bleue Extra blades to express my gratitude. Please PM me if you can help out.
 
moshulu,
I don't presently have any brass stock in 3/16" diameter. I recently purchased some brass 1/2" round and hex, and some 5/8" hex for razor handles. I would suggest you purchase a 5m brass bolt long enough to re-thread the shoulder to 10-32. If you don't have access to bolts long enough I will go purchase a 10-32 x 2.5" and send it to you. There is an industrial hardware store near where I work that has a pretty good selection of brass bolts. They also have brass round stock and threading dies. It may be good to have some extra stock to practice your slotting method until perfected.:biggrin1:
Russ

Russ,

Great suggestion. I went back and measured the broken threaded pin with a micrometer. It sure looks like it could be a standard 10-32 size. So I might be able to replace it. Cutting a slot in the end would be tricky but I guess I could manage, somehow. Brass, I suppose, would be easiest. The only trouble is, living in Europe, I have no access to SAE screws or threaded round stock. I don' t suppose anyone out there would be willing to mail me a piece? I would be happy to pay for shipping and send some super fine Gillette Bleue Extra blades to express my gratitude. Please PM me if you can help out.
 
moshulu,
I don't presently have any brass stock in 3/16" diameter. I recently purchased some brass 1/2" round and hex, and some 5/8" hex for razor handles. I would suggest you purchase a 5m brass bolt long enough to re-thread the shoulder to 10-32. If you don't have access to bolts long enough I will go purchase a 10-32 x 2.5" and send it to you. There is an industrial hardware store near where I work that has a pretty good selection of brass bolts. They also have brass round stock and threading dies. It may be good to have some extra stock to practice your slotting method until perfected.:biggrin1:
Russ

Russ,

Thanks again for your advice, and for your offer to help. A couple of other B&Bers have responded as well. I will take this to PM and come back if/when I make some progress....
 
Which direction thread is that pull down rod? I have an Open comb aristocrat I need to pull down. I am was hoping to be able to unscrew that rod. If I were to hold the doors closed in my hand, and attempt to turn the knob to open them, would that work?
 
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