in order to know if a soap is good or not you must try it without a pre shave. they also have pre shave oil though, and its pretty good i use it sometimes with some soaps. recently tried SMN soap also tried ABC soap and AdP soap before. they were all top notch, but i think the SMN is the best. gonna try the tom ford soap soon too, and some of the expensive sebum stuff. i tried the lime it was alright nothing like the soaps mentioned above. also i tried the tonka one from the tonkabean sister company it was better then the lime, top notch, but i would say SMN probably the best i tried so far.